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re: Cancer breakthroughs
Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:11 pm to Horsemeat
Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:11 pm to Horsemeat
Its ridiculous that you even have to fight to get your screenings covered even though you're a survivor. I remember your threads when you were going through your different treatments and I'm so glad you made it through them. Bless you sir!
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:33 pm to littlebird92
Kidney cancer survivor here. I was diagnosed with Stage IV roughly 4 years ago with less than 8% chance of survival. I had a softball sized tumor in my kidney that spread to my chest (2 tumors of 1" size), my lungs (1 tumor of 1" size), and my neck (1 tumor of 1/2" size). Worst part was my only child was born 4 months prior to me finding out.
I was put on Chemo and Immunotherapy immediately and this was for 8 months until they could shrink the existing tumors prior to getting my kidney removed. Just before the surgery, I had a CT Scan (insurance is too cheap for a PeT Scan) and all my tumors not in my kidney had shrunk to nothing, so when I actually had my kidney removed, I was tumor free.
After recovering from surgery, I was back on Chemo & Immunotherapy for about 6 months until my body couldn't take it anymore (many side effects including hand and foot sores that were unbearable). I have had a full year and a half of clear CT scans since. I'm not 100% out of the woods yet, but it is starting to look really good.
The immunotherapy I was given is called Keytruda, and it is considered one of the best new cancer treatments out there (for several types of cancer). The only issue is the big Pharm was trying to charge my insurance $70K per injection (every 3 weeks for me). I saw where the actual charge was roughly $27K every 3 weeks. This medicine possibly saved my life, but I still think it is ridiculous what they charge.
I was put on Chemo and Immunotherapy immediately and this was for 8 months until they could shrink the existing tumors prior to getting my kidney removed. Just before the surgery, I had a CT Scan (insurance is too cheap for a PeT Scan) and all my tumors not in my kidney had shrunk to nothing, so when I actually had my kidney removed, I was tumor free.
After recovering from surgery, I was back on Chemo & Immunotherapy for about 6 months until my body couldn't take it anymore (many side effects including hand and foot sores that were unbearable). I have had a full year and a half of clear CT scans since. I'm not 100% out of the woods yet, but it is starting to look really good.
The immunotherapy I was given is called Keytruda, and it is considered one of the best new cancer treatments out there (for several types of cancer). The only issue is the big Pharm was trying to charge my insurance $70K per injection (every 3 weeks for me). I saw where the actual charge was roughly $27K every 3 weeks. This medicine possibly saved my life, but I still think it is ridiculous what they charge.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:39 pm to TIGERSby10
First all that is amazing what you went through and to come out the other side. I'm so glad you're still here to be with your child!
It's mind boggling the amount of money that is charged for something that like you said possibly saved your life. It's honestly gross that insurance was charging $50,000 more than what the actual charge for it was.
It's mind boggling the amount of money that is charged for something that like you said possibly saved your life. It's honestly gross that insurance was charging $50,000 more than what the actual charge for it was.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 12:50 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Help me understand what you're suggesting here. Because patents get submitted very early on in the development process and the clock starts running then. So no real benefit to slowing the down the process intentionally.
For new indications as well as to maximize profit on one asset as it reaches end of life before releasing its successor.
ETA: better phrasing would have been "maximize profits during patent terms."
This post was edited on 2/12/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:31 pm to No Colors
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So are these clinical trials....or stories? If they're clinical trials can you send us a link? I don't think I've ever heard of clinical trials on the procedures you described above
Google is your friend
AI Overview
Ivermectin is an antiparasitic medication that has shown potential anticancer activity in preclinical studies. Several clinical trials are underway to evaluate its efficacy and safety in treating various types of cancer.
Types of Cancer Being Studied:
pancreatic cancer, colorectal cancer, breast cancer, and nasopharyngeal cancer.
Methylene blue (MB) has been studied in clinical trials for ovarian cancer, colorectal cancer, pancreatic cancer, and oral mucositis.
Ovarian cancer
A study found that MB can inhibit the growth of ovarian cancer cells in mice, especially those that are resistant to chemotherapy.
MB may induce cancer cell apoptosis.
Colorectal cancer
Clinical trials have shown that intra-arterial MB can increase the number of lymph nodes harvested during surgery.
Pancreatic cancer
A phase II clinical trial found that MB-PDT combined with chemotherapy was safe and may improve overall survival. A phase III trial is ongoing to further evaluate this treatment.
Oral mucositis
A phase II trial studied MB's ability to treat pain and oral dysfunction associated with oral mucositis.
Other clinical trials
A study found that MBOR therapy reduced pain in patients with radiation-induced oral mucositis.
A study found that MB can control tumor oxygenation levels.
MB is also FDA-approved to treat acquired methemoglobinemia, a rare blood disorder.
Clinical trials on hyperbaric oxygen therapy (HBOT) for cancer have produced mixed results.
Benefits
HBOT may inhibit cancer cell growth and stimulate cell death
HBOT may be safe and well tolerated when used before radiation therapy
HBOT may increase the effectiveness of chemotherapy
HBOT may improve local tumor control
Limitations
HBOT may cause more radiation damage to normal tissue
HBOT may not be effective for all types of cancer
HBOT may not be a standard treatment for long-term side effects of radiotherapy
Some patients may decline HBOT due to time commitment
Clinical trials have shown that fasting and fasting-mimicking diets (FMDs) may be safe and potentially helpful in treating cancer. These diets may also improve metabolic and immune responses.
Short-term fasting
Short-term fasting around chemotherapy may increase chemotherapy's effectiveness.
Short-term fasting may reduce adverse events and improve the antitumor effects of chemotherapy.
Short-term fasting may enhance immunogenicity and relieve tumor-induced immunosuppression.
Fasting-mimicking diets
FMDs may be safe and feasible in patients with different tumor types.
FMDs may improve metabolic and immunomodulatory effects in cancer patients.
FMDs may produce antitumor effects that are synergistic when combined with standard anticancer treatments.
Other fasting interventions
Alternate-day fasting combined with selenite may more potently reduce tumor volume than either intervention alone.
Fasting may reprogram the metabolism of natural killer cells, helping them to survive in the harsh environment in and around tumors.
Here you lazy bum.
Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:52 pm to Giantkiller
When I was at MD Anderson for a week with my ordeal, no one died on my floor. They are the bomb but I thought that was unreal
Posted on 2/14/25 at 8:54 pm to Giantkiller
I am a cancer survivor. Diagnosed with Stage IV Diffuse Large B Cell Lymphoma in 2012. Treated with a clinical trial of chemo and it went well. All clear. Then it relapsed 8 months later. Much worse. They gave me a 35% survival prognosis. Much more difficult treatment protocol that culminated in a stem cell transplant. My uncle had the exact same cancer 30 years prior at about the same age as I was when I was diagnosed. He didn’t survive. That 30 years of progress in medicine was likely a huge factor that helped save my life.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:25 am to dyslexiateechur
Let me put it out it this way- after my wife had stage 4 cervical cancer and going through treatment at MDA - I did a deep dive into cancer. This is a big $$$ business. For those who downvoted this - thats your choice but you can not deny that other treatments to cure cancer are real. Just read " The World without cancer" or the One minute cure. You do not need a MD degree to know that current treatments at cancer hospitals are not the best treatments. Just like the Covid vaccine- we all know now that it never worked, never stopped the spread, and actually damaged the immune system, and several severe side affects, including death- all documented in VAERS. Do your own research- because Big pharma /Hospitals wants you in the system- Just know this - wild animals never get cancer- and domestic pets do- Why is that- its diet. Its now proven Ivermectin, Fenbenozole, B 17, Nicotine, all cure Cancer without the harsh side affects of chemo/ radiation which leaves the body damaged.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:31 am to jdd48
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He finally got referred to MD Anderson and is going there today actually.
I was at MD last week, I donate Plasma, Blood and Platelets. I donated Platelets last week. I often give to friends and family. Sometimes, I’ll donate to folks I don’t even know. I brought my two granddaughters with me last trip.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:41 am to ctiger69
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Smoking causes cancer
Alcohol causes cancer
Eliminate these two from your life is a good start.
I drink maybe once a year and never smoked. Still got thyroid cancer.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:45 am to jdd48
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big pharma is holding back cancer research
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:54 am to jdd48
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I am not fully convinced that big pharma is not holding back cancer research.
Jesus H, this again?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:59 am to Giantkiller
A cure for cancer will never be announced in our lifetime
“ A patient cured is a patient lost”
Jobs at risk of going away if cancer is 100% curable. $$Billions and $billions in annual paychecks... GONE. Just like that. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
Oncologists (medical, radiation, surgical) ~400,000
Cancer researchers ~500,000–800,000
Oncology nurses ~1 million
Pharmaceutical employees (oncology divisions) ~300,000
Cancer-focused surgeons ~100,000–200,000
Cancer diagnostic technicians (e.g. radiology, pathology) ~500,000
Cancer charity and NGO staff ~100,000
Cancer drug manufacturing and supply chain ~400,000
“ A patient cured is a patient lost”
Jobs at risk of going away if cancer is 100% curable. $$Billions and $billions in annual paychecks... GONE. Just like that. NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
Oncologists (medical, radiation, surgical) ~400,000
Cancer researchers ~500,000–800,000
Oncology nurses ~1 million
Pharmaceutical employees (oncology divisions) ~300,000
Cancer-focused surgeons ~100,000–200,000
Cancer diagnostic technicians (e.g. radiology, pathology) ~500,000
Cancer charity and NGO staff ~100,000
Cancer drug manufacturing and supply chain ~400,000
This post was edited on 6/3/25 at 10:40 am
Posted on 6/3/25 at 9:59 am to Giantkiller
A healthy and cancer free population does not generate massive profits for the medical and big pharma industries.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:01 am to Mr Majestyk
You guys are morons
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:03 am to Chucktown_Badger
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medical and big pharma industries
quote:
You guys are morons
OOOOOHHHH! They're to help us, right?
You are correct. Some of us are morons.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:06 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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A cure for cancer will never be announced in our lifetime
What if Oldmanbeasley told you that some types of cancer are now curable?
Posted on 6/3/25 at 10:15 am to LSUDad
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was at MD last week, I donate Plasma, Blood and Platelets
I remember you donated for mom.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:04 am to Chucktown_Badger
“ those that recieved approval does not factor in the cost of the clinical trial program for the approved drug”
Pharma exaggerates the amount of money they spend on R&D.38 % of cancer drugs are developed by universities.
Ex.-olaparib was discovered by a Cambridge professor-Stephen Jackson.His research was funded by Worldwide Cancer Research,a charity based in Scotland.They recieve funding from charitable donations,foundations and from governments all over the world.NIH contributes 7 billion a year. They distribute grant money for what they deem promising research.
It was sold to Astra Zeneca.
Further research by Cambridge University found that olaparib combined with chemotherapy drugs had a100% cure rate for BRCA related breast cancer.
It’s likely to be a blockbuster drug for Astra Zeneca but how much R&D dollars do they have invested?
Costs approximately $102,194 a year as LYNPRAZA,patent expires in Oct ,2029.
In India generic olaparib costs $4258 a year.
It’s very possible that olaparib sold in U.S.will be made in India,don’t know that for sure but lots of drugs are.
U.S.taxpayers helped fund the development through the NIH but then we pay out the arse.
It is indisputable that Pharma is greedy as hell ,it is also indisputable that they spend much more on marketing than R&D,not to mention what they spend on lobbyists and campaign contributions to our cabal of sleazy politicians.
Pharma exaggerates the amount of money they spend on R&D.38 % of cancer drugs are developed by universities.
Ex.-olaparib was discovered by a Cambridge professor-Stephen Jackson.His research was funded by Worldwide Cancer Research,a charity based in Scotland.They recieve funding from charitable donations,foundations and from governments all over the world.NIH contributes 7 billion a year. They distribute grant money for what they deem promising research.
It was sold to Astra Zeneca.
Further research by Cambridge University found that olaparib combined with chemotherapy drugs had a100% cure rate for BRCA related breast cancer.
It’s likely to be a blockbuster drug for Astra Zeneca but how much R&D dollars do they have invested?
Costs approximately $102,194 a year as LYNPRAZA,patent expires in Oct ,2029.
In India generic olaparib costs $4258 a year.
It’s very possible that olaparib sold in U.S.will be made in India,don’t know that for sure but lots of drugs are.
U.S.taxpayers helped fund the development through the NIH but then we pay out the arse.
It is indisputable that Pharma is greedy as hell ,it is also indisputable that they spend much more on marketing than R&D,not to mention what they spend on lobbyists and campaign contributions to our cabal of sleazy politicians.
Posted on 6/3/25 at 11:14 am to VernonPLSUfan
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My daughter had adrenaline cancer, very rare type. MD Anderson couldn't save her.
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