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Posted on 12/7/22 at 11:45 am to rt3
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The forcible felony of someone over 65 years old law was in the jury instructions too.
if old baw is that feeble he probably shouldn't be packing heat, and what about all of the other available empty seats? did he have to sit right next to the a-hole?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:06 pm to 777Tiger
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if old baw is that feeble he probably shouldn't be packing heat
This is actually a pretty solid case for why he should be carrying.
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what about all of the other available empty seats? did he have to sit right next to the a-hole?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:12 pm to Hangit
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I see that enough people have answered you so that you can now be aware that you should never do this.
I’ve never had to pull a gun on someone, but if I did, I’m not pulling the trigger unless there’s a threat to my life or someone else’s life. Even if I’m an old man, I’d rather take a few punches to the face than take a life. If the perps only weapons were popcorn, a cell phone, and 2 fists, that’s not justifiable to me.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:18 pm to getyouinavacant
Actually you can shoot someone for throwing popcorn at you. You have proof it was justified.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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This is actually a pretty solid case for why he should be carrying.
not really, just because he is scared(doubt this is the case here,) then all the old geezers would start bussin' caps at the slightest thing
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:23 pm to getyouinavacant
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but cause the guy throws a phone and popocorn at you, you can't shoot someone over that over fear he'll do "something else".
Well, you obviously can or we wouldn't have this thread
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:30 pm to TCO
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Even if I’m an old man, I’d rather take a few punches to the face than take a life. If the perps only weapons were popcorn, a cell phone, and 2 fists, that’s not justifiable to me.
Then don't.
The law doesn't care about your personal views.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 12:31 pm to 777Tiger
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not really, just because he is scared(doubt this is the case here,) then all the old geezers would start bussin' caps at the slightest thing
Yes, really.
Disparity of force is something a lot of you should become familiar with if you want to critique his decision.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 6:42 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Yes, really.
Disparity of force is something a lot of you should become familiar with if you want to critique his decision.
Frick your "disparity of force".
The old dude got away with murder.
Nobody's life was in danger from a flying cellphone or popcorn kernels, or harsh words.
The fact that he was a retired police captain is entirely relevant and protected him from jail time. You or I would be behind bars and fricked for life.
Different rules for different people.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:02 pm to AndyCBR
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Nobody's life was in danger from a flying cellphone or popcorn kernels, or harsh words.
Well look at you, 8 years later, Captain Hindsight, knowing what the giant was Aggravated battering the elderly man with. I believe it hinged on him not having the knowledge you do now, and FL's law aboot aggravated battery on a sr. citizen.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:10 pm to Hangit
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Well look at you, 8 years later, Captain Hindsight, knowing what the giant was Aggravated battering the elderly man with. I believe it hinged on him not having the knowledge you do now, and FL's law aboot aggravated battery on a sr. citizen.
The problem with this defense is it is unlimited in scope.
Nobody can prove what someone can "feel". Was Reeves truly in fear for his life or just a pissed off old ex-cop? We'll never know.
Reeves was not allowed to use FL's "stand your ground" law as part of his defense so it was solely based on his supposed "fear for his life" and the FL statute that it is aggravated battery to assault a person above a certain age.
Reeves had his day in court and he prevailed but it was a miserable miscarriage of justice. Two wrongs don't make a right and frick Reeves for killing that little kid's father.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:11 pm to rt3
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2) I can't see well
I don’t see how this would help his defense. If you can’t see what you’re shooting (or why) then you can’t just start blasting. It’s understandable that he’s afraid in that situation but I don’t think an excuse to kill a man.
Kinda like shooting the mailman for coming towards your house. (Guy was at my house and I couldn’t see good and was afraid so I killed him. Oh well. Not my fault.)
I know that’s an oversimplification but that one aspect stuck out to me as not helping his case. Or shouldn’t have.
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:14 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Didn't some old person get beat to death in New Orleans recently?
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:21 pm to AndyCBR
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and the FL statute that it is aggravated battery to assault a person above a certain age
While it was a bad situation, it is good to see that you finally cme around to knowing the relevant laws.
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frick Reeves for killing that little kid's father.
And what about that little kid's father's choice to pick a fight that he was not able to win? He was using that 6'8" frame to intimidate, and got pissed and started battering when it didn't work.
If he had been a little guy, he would have done none of the shite he did, that ultimately, legally, cost him his life.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:33 pm to Hangit
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He was using that 6'8" frame to intimidate,
You Reeves fans keep making Oulson out to be some "giant" to fit your narrative.
Not that his height really matters, but he was 6'-3", not 6'-8"...
But that fits your and Reeves narrative, that Reeves was some poor, frail, old man who was cowering in fear for his life.
Not the facts, that Reeves was a hot-headed old ex-cop who thought he was above the law.
Keep in mind after Reeves left the theater to get staff to come and stop Oulson's heinous use of his cell phone during the previews, he then verbally escalated with Oulson after Oulson had already put away his cellphone.
So, who was the a-hole? Maybe both? But one a-hole got away with murder.
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:44 pm to AndyCBR
Reading thru this thread just reinforces the fact that you libtards are pathetic. Dont want to get shot, follow the damn rules. And don't bring a cell phone to a gun fight
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:56 pm to Big Bill
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Reading thru this thread just reinforces the fact that you libtards are pathetic. Dont want to get shot, follow the damn rules. And don't bring a cell phone to a gun fight
Dude, I'm the most conservative, right-wing person you'll ever meet.
That doesn't mean it is right for an old dude (Reeves) to kill a guy (Oulson) because he is pissed off.
And yes, my belief is Reeves was a pissed-off old ex-cop who was not in fear for his life but wanted to make a point in anger.
And he got away with murder.
So take your "libtard" insults and move on...
Posted on 12/7/22 at 7:56 pm to AndyCBR
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You Reeves fans
Don't be an assuming boy. Not his fan.
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but he was 6'-3", not 6'-8".
The first 100 articles i read on it when it happened said he was 6'8. 6'3 made its first appearance here yesterday.
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But that fits your and Reeves narrative, that Reeves was some poor, frail, old man who was cowering in fear for his life.
Once again, not my narrative. I am a spectator who watched the ugly scenario play out. This would not happen to me because I would not bully a sr. citizen though.
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Keep in mind after Reeves left the theater to get staff to come and stop Oulson's heinous use of his cell phone during the previews, he then verbally escalated with Oulson after Oulson had already put away his cellphone.
Does throwing heinous in there help to denigrate the old man's actions for you? When he got back, did he, or Oulson ramp up the conversation again? Did he, or Oulson commit aggravated battery on the other? Huh? Which one turned txhe confrontation physical?
This post was edited on 12/7/22 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 12/7/22 at 8:02 pm to Hangit
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Don't be an assuming boy. Not his fan.
I'm not your boy.
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The first 100 articles i read on it when it happened said he was 6'8. 6'3 made its first appearance here yesterday.
Yes, the media is very reliable in its reporting for you lapdogs to eat it up and swallow, and then parrot, the narrative.
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Once again, not my narrative. I am a spectator who watched the ugly scenario play out. This would not happen to me because I would not bully a sr. citizen though.
Good for you.
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Does throwing heinous in there help to denigrate the old man's actions for you? When he got back, did he, or Oulson ramp up the conversation again? Did he, or Oulson commit aggravated battery on the other? Huh? Which one turned txhe confrontation physical?
It takes two people not to get along. Reeves was as much an instigator as Oulson. Dude got away with murder because he was an ex Police Captain. You or I would still be in jail...
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