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re: Deadbeat parents about to lose their passports
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:15 pm to SallysHuman
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:15 pm to SallysHuman
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I do have a brother that married a woman and he raised her young son as his own. Five or six years later they divorced and she never let him see the kid again. She went back to the baby daddy. It broke my brother’s heart but what could he do? It’s just always bothered me that men only get to play whatever role a woman sets out for them. I hate that a woman can destroy a man’s child. I hate my body my choice. I hate each and every way that feminism destroys families.
While this situation sucks, it’s way more common for the dad to bail on kids. So many moms where I live raising children on their own. Most of the dads don’t have passports and probably can’t afford the child support.
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Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:20 pm to LemmyLives
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I'll try and be delicate here; your brother took a chance to be the good man, did the right thing, and got his heart ripped out. So what is not to turn him bitter?
He later married another woman, a very good woman, and they have two of their own children. I am grateful every day that he didn’t turn bitter and lose out on the family he eventually got to have. I have no doubt there’s still a large empty spot in his heart for the “son” he didn’t get to keep.
It turned out well for him, I’m not sure about the boy… but it really helped shape how I understand and view the disparities between men, women, family, and choices.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:24 pm to Hobie101
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, it’s way more common for the dad to bail on kids. So many moms where I live raising children on their own
I would challenge this assertion, even among the race you think I'd make an exception for as doing this by default. Some women intentionally make the environment so toxic, impose so many conditions, that even well meaning, educated men give up. There are plenty that do just take off, but when the mom explains that the 9 year old "doesn't feel like coming downstairs" to give dad a hug even, while getting emotional about why lawyers are involved, for years, a lot of men will think they'll do less damage to the kid, especially daughters, by just not rocking the boat.
I tried for years, and was nice, and my lawyer (female) said, "That's bullshite. There are guys in prison that see their kids more often than you do."(I lived 5 miles away)
Dads bail on the moms, and the moms know what they're doing for the most part in those situations.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:34 pm to LemmyLives
Everything Lemmy said
I only know two single mothers that were legit done wrong. My long dead grandmother whose husband literally left for cigarettes and never came back and a woman in my neighborhood.
All the rest I ever knew… were more along the lines of what Lemmy said.
I actually know more men that were ripped apart and done wrong.
I only know two single mothers that were legit done wrong. My long dead grandmother whose husband literally left for cigarettes and never came back and a woman in my neighborhood.
All the rest I ever knew… were more along the lines of what Lemmy said.
I actually know more men that were ripped apart and done wrong.
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:49 pm to SallysHuman
I know a couple of thirty something year old women who are single mothers.
One from a one night stand. She was recently out of a relationship and wanted a kid and had unprotected sex with a one night stand from a bar. Told him she was pregnant and he offered to pay for the abortion (which she obviously declined).
The other one is pregnant by the guy she was living with but was cheating openly. She also was not using protection and chose to keep the kid.
You could call both guys deadbeats and it wouldn't be wrong. It also isn't wrong to point out those women made conscious and consistent bad decisions. When both birth control and abortion are available there's some merit to the idea they were the final word and therefore should be primarily responsible for having the kid.
I don't envy those kids. Growing up without a father and only cared for by women who make sketchy decisions seem like two strikes from the get go.
The number of women who have taken advantage of sexual freedom to make the worst possible decisions is astounding. Those kids will undoubtedly had serious risks of never finishing high school and prison. Sex was supposed to be after marriage for good reason
One from a one night stand. She was recently out of a relationship and wanted a kid and had unprotected sex with a one night stand from a bar. Told him she was pregnant and he offered to pay for the abortion (which she obviously declined).
The other one is pregnant by the guy she was living with but was cheating openly. She also was not using protection and chose to keep the kid.
You could call both guys deadbeats and it wouldn't be wrong. It also isn't wrong to point out those women made conscious and consistent bad decisions. When both birth control and abortion are available there's some merit to the idea they were the final word and therefore should be primarily responsible for having the kid.
I don't envy those kids. Growing up without a father and only cared for by women who make sketchy decisions seem like two strikes from the get go.
The number of women who have taken advantage of sexual freedom to make the worst possible decisions is astounding. Those kids will undoubtedly had serious risks of never finishing high school and prison. Sex was supposed to be after marriage for good reason
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:52 pm to SallysHuman
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All the rest I ever knew… were more along the lines of what Lemmy said.
I actually know more men that were ripped apart and done wrong.
I ended up where I did because I didn't want to disrupt the kid's routines with activities, etc. If I did, then I'm the subject of their ire, even though it was mom that thought it was a good idea to schedule 6 days a week of activities 20 miles apart for each kid.
Female therapist said if I gave up, my daughter would never forget it, and I'd never get a chance to explain how hard her mom made it. I never imagined a mom would be so dismissive of the need for dad's interaction with a daughter, so I never saw that kind of behavior coming from a Big 4 background (not traditional gold digger.) So, lawyer cashin checks!
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:57 pm to LemmyLives
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I ended up where I did because I didn't want to disrupt the kid's routines with activities, etc. If I did, then I'm the subject of their ire, even though it was mom that thought it was a good idea to schedule 6 days a week of activities 20 miles apart for each kid.
I’m sorry… that’s a lose/lose and I don’t envy you being in that position. Divorce is hard, divorce with children is, well, awful- even best case scenario is awful,
As far as what you’d expect of a mother… they aren’t always what they’re cracked up to be. Unfortunately.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:28 am to TT9
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I mean, who can't agree with this one??
The same party that can't define what women are.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:30 am to TT9
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I mean, who can't agree with this one??
Boasberg?
Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:42 am to stout
This should absolutely happen.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:45 am to EastWestConnection
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doesnt affect me id rather die than have kids
It is clear based on your replies you don't have kids nor do you know what it is like to care for one.
I'm thrilled you aren't reproducing. People like you are the reason I support abortion as well.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 7:54 am to stout
This might’ve made my dad actually pay child support.
But then if he didn’t have his passport id never have my little sister—who is pretty cool.
But then if he didn’t have his passport id never have my little sister—who is pretty cool.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:23 am to TygerLyfe
Passport Bros gonna be upset!
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:44 am to EastWestConnection
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more "small" government. Are there really THAT many dead beat dads leaving the country permanently over child support? Of course not. But it's another method of government control over the citizens.
The Save America Act would basically require a valid passport to register AND vote in a federal election. I am certain there will be MANY MANY MANY ways to lose a passport coming down the road because there is one thing one segment of this country is adamant about it is that fewer people should have a say in the governance of this nation. Currently the opposition to that movement has a pretty significant advantage in polling asking about political party affiliation and current passport status....by as much as 5-6% as educated people tend more toward one party and aren't scared to travel abroad. There will no doubt be a push to make it harder to obtain a passport and keep a current passport going forward if the Save America Act has any chance of achieving its goal....
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:47 am to stout
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Trump administration expands and steps up enforcement of a 30-year-old law that allows the federal government to revoke American passports until payments are made, three U.S. officials told The Associated Press.
Progs set to riot in the streets in support of people who don’t pay child support.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:48 am to AwgustaDawg
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The Save America Act would basically require a valid passport to register AND vote in a federal election.
This just isn't true. There are many options to confirm you are a citizen. Stop believing the lies and hyperbole and do your own research
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According to the bill text and summaries, any one of the following would count as documentary proof of U.S. citizenship needed to register to vote (for federal elections):
An enhanced driver’s license that indicates U.S. citizenship
— Enhanced driver’s licenses are a special type of REAL ID that explicitly shows citizenship status.
A valid U.S. passport
— A current United States passport is explicitly listed as an acceptable document.
An official U.S. military identification card
— Military IDs are included as valid proof of citizenship.
A valid government-issued photo ID card that lists citizenship status
— Any government photo ID that includes evidence of U.S. citizenship qualifies.
Any other valid government-issued photo ID card plus additional citizenship evidence
— This means a photo ID plus supporting documents showing citizenship, such as:
• A U.S. birth certificate
• A naturalization certificate
• A Consular Report of Birth Abroad (CRBA)
— These supporting documents demonstrate that the person is a U.S. citizen.
Wikipedia
These facts make the rest of your post pure bullshite
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 8:49 am
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:53 am to stout
Child neglect is illegal. Anyone who is delinquent on child support should be charged with child neglect and made to pay the first time. After the third time they should be locked up and forced to work until they have paid for the support of their child and the cost to society for them having failed to do so. Women are almost always left with the larger roll in raising children when the relationship falls apart. Men are free to live as if they haven't a care in the world. As women gain more and more political clout this will change as it should. The least a man can do is pay for a small part of the cost of raising a child. If a man don't want to do so he is free to abstain from sex or wrap that rascal. His choice...but he absolutely should not be free to make another human being with almost no responsibility for that human being. I know, I know, women and bitches...there will be a host of men on here telling woeful tales about how horrible their ex is about the kids. Suck it buttercup.....you made your fricking choice, live with it....just like we expect women to do.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:58 am to SallysHuman
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ETA... I'm even further not cool with this considering women can choose not to be a parent via abortion, regardless of how the father feels or if he even knows. Men do not have that option.
Men have a much better option. Don't have sex. Very few men are raped by women in this country. If that is the case a man would have a legit reason not to want to be part of the kids life. Thankfully its almost unheard of. If a man doesn't want to be financially responsible for a kid he has the option of not having sex, having a vasectomy and rolling the dice or wrapping that rascal and gambling. Men have a more ironclad choice than women because women do get raped by men. Women are almost universally expected to provide 100% of the emotional support of a child, a man should be forced to provide the lions share of financial support for a child. If a man disagrees he can keep it in his pants.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:14 am to AwgustaDawg
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Men have a much better option. Don't have sex. Very few men are raped by women in this country.
This is your argument? That women can be raped?
You think the majority or even plurality of reasons women abort, abandon or adopt out are because of rape?
This is a ridiculous argument.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 9:17 am to stout
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This just isn't true. There are many options to confirm you are a citizen. Stop believing the lies and hyperbole and do your own research
This is true my friend. Yes, there is language in the bill that would make alternate forms of ID acceptable. Those forms of ID do not exist for the most part currently...notice in your wiki link the phrase "indicates US citizenship". Currently those do not exist anywhere. The individual states issuing those will have to decide if they will include that information. Those hoping to use such ID will HAVE to have a passport or an acceptable photo ID and a birth certificate to obtain them if the state they live in decides to offer them. They will have to also go through the effort. The ONLY currently acceptable form of stand alone ID that would meet the criteria in the bill that is available to ALL citizens is a passport.
I think the bill is a good idea. The damage that has been done to election credibility in the greatest nation on earth by people who suffer from irrational fear and a serious lack of basic math competence is extensive. When some unforeseen event, like some 35 million people losing their collective minds and ability to add, damages an institution as important as elections are in a republic it is often necessary to over correct to stop the bleeding. It is unfortunate we have gotten there but a small minority of truly stupid people have allowed their stupidity to gravely damage this nation and corrections must be made. the data suggests that it is not a slam dunk that the bill works the way those 35 million idiots think it will, anymore than a roving band of masked thugs roaming about the nation violating the civil rights of people left and right has been unifying as they thought it would. The data suggests that it will make the educated and those who earn more money more likely to possess the needed documents and those people tend to vote against those 35 million people....that trend is about 10 years old and growing with each passing day. I am fully on board with a law that makes idiots both comfortable and less important in elections.
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