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Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:30 pm to
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Anyone else way below forecast high for today? It’s 36 here in Pike county w/ steady rain. Surely there’s no chance we squeeze out a few flakes, right?

Radiatonal cooling has overperformed. Only 42 here in BR.
I'd imagine the warm air extends too high for flakes.
Let us know if you seem some!
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104685 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:31 pm to
37 and raining in Tim McGraw country. I don't see any snow as yet.
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:32 pm to
Will do. I’m working outside today so I will not miss it
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31860 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:32 pm to
Forgive me - I've just read the last couple of pages....Is this storm brining serious freezing rain/snow/sleet to south MS/LA/AL or not?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176442 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:36 pm to
This is evaporative cooling

Temp was 43 with an RH of 76% in BR when it started raining an hour ago. Temp is 39 now and RH is 93%.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104685 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:38 pm to
Seems unlikely from the latest indications
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23789 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

This is evaporative cooling

Confused my terms. Radiational is on a clear night

Nice stats!
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176442 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:39 pm to
The air is running out of capacity to hold water so the temp isn't going to cool off much more. And this thick cloud deck isn't going to let any radiational cooling occur tonight so temps are going to pretty much hold steady until tomorrow.

I'd like to see some snow but I digest.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23789 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:41 pm to
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The air is running out of capacity to hold water so the temp isn't going to cool off much more. And this thick cloud deck isn't going to let any radiational cooling occur tonight so temps are going to pretty much hold steady until tomorrow.

How high up would we have to go for snow right now?
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:42 pm to
I’m guessing it’s near impossible to forecast evaporative cooling? Days like today is why i’ll never rule out a chance of snow if conditions are close to being suitable
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61615 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

I digest.


Hope it all works out ok. :)
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176442 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:44 pm to
Always a chance you can wet bulb your arse off
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176442 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

How high up would we have to go for snow right now?


About 13000 feet judging by the melting layer on CC around Shreveport. Big melting line from 5400 feet to 13000 feet which line up with this big warm nose on HRRR soundings.



This post was edited on 12/19/22 at 1:52 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
73259 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

wet bulb your arse off

Careful.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 2:06 pm to

What is that showing? I'm in the pink there
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176442 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 2:13 pm to
That's the radar beam from the Shreveport radar. That solid pink close to Shreveport is all rain. The beam is rising as it travels out and once it's to that yellow stuff it's about 5000 feet off the ground. Once it's out of that it's about 13000 feet off the ground. That yellow area is uncorrelated objects so it's snow and ice melting into rain. Above that is all pink again so it's probably all snow. But at that point it's 13000+ feet off the ground and hasn't fallen through the warm layer yet.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31860 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Seems unlikely from the latest indications


THANK YOU!
Travel plans and winterizing the house will continue as planned.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
73259 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 2:29 pm to
And all of what tBoat said as he digested is backed up by the circled bit of the Skew-t.



The temps just above ground are well above freezing. Whatever frozen precip forms above melts as it passes through that layer.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
176442 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 2:35 pm to
It's cool when you can match the skew-t to the radar. HRRR on the ball.

Another note.. that thin blue line, for lack of a better descriptor, is the wet bulb temperature. Which is what the temperature would be if the air becomes fully saturated from water evaporating as it falls through it at that point. It would cool off some but we'd still have a nice warm nose under our current conditions. Confirming the un-anticipation of snow or any winter precip.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
170304 posts
Posted on 12/19/22 at 2:47 pm to
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