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re: Dock workers at ports get a 62% pay increase
Posted on 10/4/24 at 8:59 am to mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 10/4/24 at 8:59 am to mmmmmbeeer
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These are American ports serving foreign businesses using American labor.
Would you rather they use foreign labor?
American labor is already too high for our middle class.
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Posted on 10/4/24 at 8:59 am to Jcorye1
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I'm for artificially increased product prices
Do you know how absolutely MINISCULE these dockworkers' pay is in the budgets of these huge multinational shipping companies?! Christ....this isn't some mom and pop restaurant operating on the thinnest of margins here. To pretend a few million in extra comp every year is going to lead to a measurable increase in retail prices is absolutely fricking laughable and puts your misunderstanding of macroeconomics in plain view.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:00 am to Dog Tree
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This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 3:46 am
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:00 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Would you rather they use foreign labor?
What?
Explain how that would work, please. How are these companies going to get foreign dockworkers on federally approved work visas to work American ports? Talk about political suicide.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:00 am to Misnomer
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If a machine is available that can do a job more efficiently and more accurately than a human, in most cases it should
Exactly.
Evidently automation is cheaper than human output in the dock industry, which means we're fricking up using human labor.
We didnt become world leader by using uneconomical labor practices.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:03 am to mmmmmbeeer
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How are these companies going to get foreign dockworkers on federally approved work visas
Your president flooded the country with poor foreigners who are legally allowed to work in this country.
Which puts downward pressure on wages.
Do you know what that means?
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:09 am to Dog Tree
Starting at the Federal Government ......
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
Is mmmmmcreampie being stupid again? It must be a day that ends in Y.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:14 am to FLObserver
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Who new
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Why bother with college.
Checks out.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:17 am to FLObserver
forklift operators are highly skilled.....
Let's face it, the longshoremen are in a position of power and can hold the country ransom! And they did!
Let's face it, the longshoremen are in a position of power and can hold the country ransom! And they did!
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 9:20 am
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:19 am to mmmmmbeeer
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What?
Explain how that would work, please. How are these companies going to get foreign dockworkers on federally approved work visas to work American ports? Talk about political suicide.
bro you can't be serious lol
we had like 30 millions illegals cross the border in 3 1/2 years
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:20 am to Codythetiger
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we had like 30 millions illegals cross the border in 3 1/2 years
Who are legally allowed to take employment in this country.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:36 am to FLObserver
This pretty much seals their fate. It is no longer economically feasible to use human labor. Automation is coming, and this will accelerate its inevitable implementation.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:36 am to mmmmmbeeer
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mmmmmbeeer
These dockworkers are not average joes, you fricking idiot. They earn around 160,000/year and have insane benefits, which is far beyond the median income in America. They earn way more than market rate for comparable jobs. They have earned this high income via monopolistic practices. They also highly restrict entry into their field, which hurts actual “average joes” who would love to be a dock worker
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:38 am to Specktricity
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It is no longer economically feasible to use human labor.
Precisely.
The difference in labor cost from the US to most nations is horrific. The Government destruction of the dollar is to blame.
Why wouldnt companies offshore or use foreign labor?
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:38 am to FLObserver
Ask for a huge raise then try and eliminate automation of your job. Nothing screams Monopoly more than this. Unions can go to hell. Any wonder why companies are leaving the U.S.
This post was edited on 10/4/24 at 9:39 am
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:39 am to FLObserver
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Ask for a huge raise then try and eliminate automation of your job.
The union boss will become wealthy in the meantime.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:40 am to mmmmmbeeer
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Do you know how absolutely MINISCULE these dockworkers' pay is in the budgets of these huge multinational shipping companies?! Christ....this isn't some mom and pop restaurant operating on the thinnest of margins here. To pretend a few million in extra comp every year is going to lead to a measurable increase in retail prices is absolutely fricking laughable and puts your misunderstanding of macroeconomics in plain view.
YOU ARE frickING RETARDED.
Numerous studies have shown that European ports are cheaper than American ports, which, all else held equal, has provided cost savings to European consumers
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:40 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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YOU ARE frickING RETARDED.
Youre being kind to him.
Posted on 10/4/24 at 9:41 am to FLObserver
Guess who is going to pay for the extra cost in transportation...us!
frick them and frick all unions.
frick them and frick all unions.
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