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re: Electric Cars - the biggest scam?
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:24 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:24 pm to sabanisarustedspoke
quote:It's kind of known.
I like Tesla. But this is a complete unknown.
quote:You are wrong by four orders of magnitude. If you don't know what that means, it's pretty bad. I can see why you're so confused by this topic.
Right now .0001% of the cars on the road are EVs.
quote:It will take decades to approach 100%.
when that number turns into 100%
quote:Not only is it not unthinkable, but it is pretty easy to ballpark it. A typical EV gets about 3 miles per kwh. In the US, we drive about 3.2 Trillion miles per year, so it would require about a Trillion kWh of electricity to power a 100% EV fleet. We already use about 4 Trillion kWh of electricity per year, so that "unthinkable" load would be an increase of about 25%.
it will be an unthinkable load on our grid
That sounds achievable over the course of a few decades, doesn't it? But we don't even have to add that much capacity due to our cyclical use of electricity (we use more during the day than at night, and more in the summer than winter). That means we might not have to add any capacity at all (except maybe regionally/locally), because we can easily produce 25% more power with our current capacity just by charging smartly. That is, at night. In fact, if we reach a certain critical mass of EVs, we could get away with less generation capacity than we currently require. All those EVs can serve as grid storage, so we could smooth out the highs and lows and run all our plants at peak efficiency without having to fire up peaker plants during high demand periods.
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:26 pm to soccerfüt
I see a lot of advantages to it as a second vehicle.Just plug it in when you get home.Don’t have to worry about oil changes,radiator or transmission service,no belts or hoses.
I wouldn’t want to rely on it for taking road trips,
I wouldn’t want to rely on it for taking road trips,
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:26 pm to soccerfüt
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Already have a 60 Amp service in my garage. Previous homeowner had a ceramic kiln in the garage.
That’s great, but you are one of the lucky 63% of vehicle owners in America that have a garage or carport as of 2017.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:36 pm to EA6B
quote:But do I have a Commie Flag tacked up on the wall in it?
That’s great, but you are one of the lucky 63% of vehicle owners in America that have a garage or carport as of 2017.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:39 pm to OweO
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Look into some EV related companies and buy stock in them. Start with the company Charger Point
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:40 pm to Big Gorilla
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cant talk about the cities not having chargers as I will never visit any large shitehole city again.
Ah can’t be around all them confounded city slickers! And blast them all to tarnation, dadgummit!
Posted on 8/3/21 at 10:48 pm to tadman
I’m awaiting the day I see truck nuts on an electric F150.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:27 pm to tadman
What do you do when you run out of juice on the highway ? Does someone bring a generator or do you carry a solar panel in your trunk?
I’d love to have a Tesla.
I’d love to have a Tesla.
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:35 pm to Bigfishchoupique
quote:You mostly just don't do that. It should never be a surprise if you don't have enough charge to get to where you're going.
What do you do when you run out of juice on the highway ?
quote:Easiest way is to just tow the car in gear for a while. That will charge the battery.
Does someone bring a generator or do you carry a solar panel in your trunk?
ETA: For every mile you get towed, you get 3-5 miles worth of charge.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 8/3/21 at 11:39 pm to Bigfishchoupique
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What do you do when you run out of juice on the highway ? Does someone bring a generator or do you carry a solar panel in your trunk?
According to what I read in these threads it will never ever happen. you have a fancy App that will route you to your destination based on the location of charging stations. It might take 10-12 hours to make what is normally a 8 hour trip. I had a long conversation with a Tesla owner at the beach this summer, in his words "you get to go where the car can get charged not where you really would like to go."
Posted on 8/4/21 at 1:07 am to Korkstand
As I said, I am all for EVs. I think they are undoubtedly better engines and are absolutely the future. But, I think it's the clientele I hate. Yea, when I read your post I couldn't help but hear some faggoty voice with the absolute confidence of a middle school hall monitor as you spit those numbers out. Again, we have no idea what kind of pressure being 100% electric will do to our grid so I hope we truly build up or infrastructure.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 1:13 am to EA6B
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According to what I read in these threads it will never ever happen. you have a fancy App that will route you to your destination based on the location of charging stations.
Like Gas Buddy
Posted on 8/4/21 at 1:22 am to sabanisarustedspoke
quote:Again, we have a pretty good idea, which I laid out reasonably accurately for you. To reiterate, it would require a 25% increase in total production, which is achievable with today's grid capacity with smart charging, and easily achievable by the time we are anywhere near 100% EV.
Again, we have no idea what kind of pressure being 100% electric will do to our grid so I hope we truly build up or infrastructure.
In short, it's a non-issue aside from possibly some local improvements that may be required.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 1:32 am to Korkstand
I worry more about the batteries than anything else. How are they going to be disposed of?
Posted on 8/4/21 at 1:43 am to TimeOutdoors
quote:Almost everything in the batteries is infinitely recyclable. Right now mining new is still cheaper than recycling, but as more "spent" batteries come around those economics will change. It's hard to imagine a more mineral-rich "mine" than a pile of batteries.
I worry more about the batteries than anything else. How are they going to be disposed of?
Also, depending on how the economics and tech develop, it might be beneficial to give spent car batteries a second life as home energy storage. Less than about 70% initial capacity is considered end of life for a car, but that's still a lot of capacity for a stationary installation.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 5:53 am to tadman
But will it tow my boat down to Cocodrie and back during the weekend and be able to go to work at 4:30 AM on Monday morning.? It s a tandem axle trailer and the boat has two outboards on it.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 5:58 am to tadman
What will big apartment complexes do? I can see some fights breaking out over who gets to charge.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:10 am to tadman
Yo forgot one--
Teslas are ugly as shite
Teslas are ugly as shite
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:11 am to tadman
I'm in the Chicagoland burbs, and the amount of Teslas on the road is moreso prevalent this year than I've ever seen...they are everywhere now
Posted on 8/4/21 at 6:33 am to AndyCBR
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by AndyCBR
Democrats are too dumb to understand that picture.
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