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re: Estate Sale Find Today!!! Maybe the Greatest Find of my 25 Year Hobby - It’s No Great Deal

Posted on 12/26/25 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 3:36 pm to
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Has it been authenticated?


I bought it two hours ago, so no. ??
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 3:38 pm to
That’s a fake, Prez Roosevelt used to sign documents and autographs “Frankie Roo”.
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 3:51 pm to
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Autopen signature.


This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 3:52 pm
Posted by 4Bagger
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:09 pm to
Since you found it on the first day of the sale I assume you paid top dollar.
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:20 pm to
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Not trying to rain on your parade, but I find it hard to believe that someone in possession of something signed by a sitting president would have no idea of its value.
It’s not too late to delete this.
Posted by Beachtiger
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:24 pm to
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It was one of the giant houses on City Park Drive.


Impressive amount of paintings.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:28 pm to
That is really cool. My MIL is the opposite. She's a hoarder. It has gotten better but at one point her house looked like the TV show.

Her problem is she watches the news and sees headlines like this:

Original iPhone unsealed box sells for six figures
Baseball card sells for a million dollars
Magazine sells for $50,000

and translates it to:

Keeping boxes for iPhone 4 (just the open boxes, not the phone)
Keeps everything sports card my brother in law ever had even though he has gone through them and kept the valuable ones
Has every Sports Illustrated from 1993-2005


Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:31 pm to
It’s definitely not an auto pen. The letter spacing is compressed and was probably rushed given the ink is smeared. But, I think it’s secretarial. Other signatures from that timeframe don’t exhibit the vertical waviness and the F and the T seem off.
Posted by vl100butch
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:34 pm to
One of the odd things I got involved in at the Waterways Experiment Station was a mid 1920's commission for an Aid in the Coast and Geodetic Survey signed by Calvin Coolidge as President and Herbert Hoover as Secretary of Commerce.

Did some digging and after a couple of phone calls I was able to get someone at NOAA who could explain it.

The rank of Aid was the USCGS equivalent of a Second Lieutenant!
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:40 pm to
Nm
This post was edited on 12/26/25 at 6:41 pm
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:45 pm to
Autopen
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:54 pm to
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Since you found it on the first day of the sale I assume you paid top dollar.


Actually it was the 4th day of the sale. It was all last weekend, and they brought out more artwork this weekend. Not sure if this piece was out last weekend
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 6:57 pm to
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It’s definitely not an auto pen. The letter spacing is compressed and was probably rushed given the ink is smeared. But, I think it’s secretarial. Other signatures from that timeframe don’t exhibit the vertical waviness and the F and the T seem off.


I doubt it’s a secretary signed document. They usually signed stuff like general letters, etc, not official documents like this. Plus the signature is a dead ringer for the signatures that are PSA certified.
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:05 pm to
I once did work on a bitumen recovery system in curaçao… could have been signed for me
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:17 pm to
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I doubt it’s a secretary signed document. They usually signed stuff like general letters, etc, not official documents like this. Plus the signature is a dead ringer for the signatures that are PSA certified.


If it’s a legitimate signature and not a secretary signed letter it’d probably be worth a couple hundred to a few hundred bucks in great condition, the subject matter won’t really appeal to collectors. It’s not really historically significant.

Your issue is it looks smudged. Your best shot at making any money on it is spending some money to get it authenticated.

Regardless, it’s a cool piece, but if you spent in the three figures on it you likely may come close to breaking even, maybe even losing money.
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:22 pm to
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It’s not really historically significant.


The Bituminous Coal Commission was a Commission that was deemed illegal by the US Supreme Court.

There is some historical significance here
Posted by lsuconnman
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:28 pm to
Let’s be honest, whoever buys it would cut the signature from the document. As someone else said, that smudge is what turns it from a quick flip after authentication to a potential boat anchor after all the sunk costs.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:32 pm to
Bro I feel like you’ll be buying trash off my wife once I die. I gots plenty
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:34 pm to
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theantiquetiger


You got got on this one baw
Posted by oldtrucker
Marianna, Fl
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 12/26/25 at 7:35 pm to
I have a photo signed by Curley Hallman
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