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re: Family Tree Criminals?
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:57 pm to Catahoula
Posted on 8/7/24 at 10:57 pm to Catahoula
I have a distant uncle that my older family members believe was involved in the lynching of Emmit Till. Pretty much all hearsay though. Guy was a real piece of work and a known klan member. My dad(as a child) witnessed this guy kicking one of his kids in the head over an argument about getting a hair cut.
I do know that he died from a self inflicted gun-shot wound in his own house that he set on fire shortly before committing suicide. My Grandad says he killed himself because the Feds were closing in on him. Again, Hearsay.
I do know that he died from a self inflicted gun-shot wound in his own house that he set on fire shortly before committing suicide. My Grandad says he killed himself because the Feds were closing in on him. Again, Hearsay.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 11:05 pm
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:02 pm to Catahoula
Nope. The coolest criminal story from my family is my ancestor still had indentured servants into 1890s (largely illegally although they were free to leave at any time) and one of the indentured servants wives was raped by one of her fellow indentured colleagues and her husband murdered him for it.
My great 3x grandfather agreed with the murderer, gave him a Benjamin, and told him and his wife to get the frick up to Chicago since he could no longer protect him. Shortly after that, the government told him to cut the shite with the free indentured servitude just providing their means and start paying them cash.
My great 3x grandfather agreed with the murderer, gave him a Benjamin, and told him and his wife to get the frick up to Chicago since he could no longer protect him. Shortly after that, the government told him to cut the shite with the free indentured servitude just providing their means and start paying them cash.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:07 pm to Catahoula
A great uncle shot a game warden way way way back. Didn’t kill him. Spent his life in prison.
An uncle (by marriage) was caught red handed by a cop while putting a dead hooker in a dumpster in Shreveport in the early 80s. Died in prison.
An uncle (by marriage) was caught red handed by a cop while putting a dead hooker in a dumpster in Shreveport in the early 80s. Died in prison.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:16 pm to p0845330
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great uncle shot a game warden way way way back. Didn’t kill him. Spent his life in prison.
An uncle (by marriage) was caught red handed by a cop while putting a dead hooker in a dumpster in Shreveport in the early 80s. Died in prison.
I knew the uncle stories would begin to come out for this thread!
Posted on 8/8/24 at 12:40 am to Catahoula
My grandfather was Camorra back in Napoli and continued to practice his trade when he arrived in the USA. From what I hear, he was your run-of-the-mill leg breaker and was never involved in anything "famous".
Posted on 8/8/24 at 12:53 am to Epic Cajun
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Carlos Marcello
He was married to my grandmother's first cousin. Never met him though.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:07 am to Catahoula
My great x 5 grandfather was a pirate named Jean Lafitte, who resided at (and smuggled/hid out at) what is now Lafitte’s Blacksmith’s Shoppe, the oldest bar in America .. he also got up to many other shenanigans back in that time ....
ETA i saw above that someone else referenced my PawPaw Jean, i guess he was living pretty large back then .
ETA i saw above that someone else referenced my PawPaw Jean, i guess he was living pretty large back then .
Posted on 8/8/24 at 1:42 am to Catahoula
my uncle was a Provisional IRA member and was freed from jail after the Good Friday agreement. I think he got caught moving guns or explosives or something.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 4:06 am to Captain Rumbeard
Posted on 8/8/24 at 5:23 am to Havoc
Distant relatives - from days gone by
1) Ran a whore house in Galveston. Cops shot him 9 times - he was resisting arrest.
2) 2 others spent a couple of years in Leavenworth for bootlegging in Texas during Prohibition.
3) Convicted of espionage/treason in California. Wife and family moved and changed last name.
1) Ran a whore house in Galveston. Cops shot him 9 times - he was resisting arrest.
2) 2 others spent a couple of years in Leavenworth for bootlegging in Texas during Prohibition.
3) Convicted of espionage/treason in California. Wife and family moved and changed last name.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:27 am to Catahoula
Not nearly as exciting as some of these prior replies but very local. I had a first cousin who was on the Baton Rouge city council back in the 80s. Well he used that position to extend favors and carry out shady deals. I don’t even know the details of it all but I do know that he wound up in a federal pen in Texas for a handful of years in the 90’s.
He lived a pretty ordinary life after he got out and never ran afoul of the law again. Passed away just last year.
He lived a pretty ordinary life after he got out and never ran afoul of the law again. Passed away just last year.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:33 am to Catahoula
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Any distant mobster uncles or something like that?
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:33 am to Captain Rumbeard
We have the Taylor-Sutton feud in our family, a Texas version of the Hatfield and McCoy's. So infamous it's taught in Texas state history classes.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 6:41 am to Ghost of Colby
He's gos some incredible stories and I'm sure there's many more he just has no recollection of.
Opening acts were different back then (at least in europe) as in they didn't go on tour with the bands but would rather be hired by the venue where the headliner was playing so they go to play in front of and meet bands like Jethro Tull, The Who, Zeppelin, Crosby, Stills Nash & Young, etc
Opening acts were different back then (at least in europe) as in they didn't go on tour with the bands but would rather be hired by the venue where the headliner was playing so they go to play in front of and meet bands like Jethro Tull, The Who, Zeppelin, Crosby, Stills Nash & Young, etc
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:24 am to Catahoula
My maternal great grandmother was a flapper in the 20s in Atlanta and had a clipping from the Atlanta Journal of her attending some sort of dance at Oglethorpe University with Richard Gallogly who was convicted of several armed robberies and a murder sometime in the 30's. In the picture she was wearing a flapper dress and "crown". Gallogly was a rich kid who, along with a gang of rich kids in Atlanta, committed a bunch of armed robberies for the thrill of it. They killed at least 2 people while committing these robberies but were only charged with one.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:43 am to Catahoula
He wasn't famous for it, in fact its a pretty typical southern family history, but the reason I was born in Atlanta was because my paternal grandfather had been arrested in Anniston Alabama for bootlegging and served a year and a day on an Alabama chain gang. When he was released he went right back into the business and was caught again less than a year later. The same judge told him he had 2 choices, go to prison for 30 years or leave the state. His response was, supposedly "I always wondered what it'd be like to live in Atlanta".
Why Atlanta? Because his mother, my great grandmother, and his younger brother, my uncle, had relocated to Atlanta a couple of years prior to his first arrest because his step father, my great grandfather, had robbed the post office in Anniston, drunk, and was arrested as he left the building with a pistol and about $150 in cash. He was sentenced to about 25 years in the Federal penitentiary and was sent to Atlanta. They relocated there to be close enough to visit. He was released after about 5 years and was arrested and convicted again for robbing another post office in Clayton County Georgia. He served about 3 years in the Atlanta federal pen for that one and was released again. Other than being a mean assed drunk as far as I know he never committed another crime after the second robbery.
My grandfather and uncle were wannabe gangsters. They were involved in all manner of schemes and unlawful activity centered around gambling and illicit alcohol. I worked for them as a kid....I thought the sun and the moon rose and set in their asses. As far as I was concerned they were merely pawpaw and uncle louis and they always had a few bucks in their pockets and took me with them to all kinds of interesting places for a kid...gambling dens, dive bars, whore houses....neither of them were ever convicted of anything while I was alive, my grandfather and the Douglas County sheriff were drinking and gambling buddies...but they were certainly not overly concerned with laws and breaking them...
Why Atlanta? Because his mother, my great grandmother, and his younger brother, my uncle, had relocated to Atlanta a couple of years prior to his first arrest because his step father, my great grandfather, had robbed the post office in Anniston, drunk, and was arrested as he left the building with a pistol and about $150 in cash. He was sentenced to about 25 years in the Federal penitentiary and was sent to Atlanta. They relocated there to be close enough to visit. He was released after about 5 years and was arrested and convicted again for robbing another post office in Clayton County Georgia. He served about 3 years in the Atlanta federal pen for that one and was released again. Other than being a mean assed drunk as far as I know he never committed another crime after the second robbery.
My grandfather and uncle were wannabe gangsters. They were involved in all manner of schemes and unlawful activity centered around gambling and illicit alcohol. I worked for them as a kid....I thought the sun and the moon rose and set in their asses. As far as I was concerned they were merely pawpaw and uncle louis and they always had a few bucks in their pockets and took me with them to all kinds of interesting places for a kid...gambling dens, dive bars, whore houses....neither of them were ever convicted of anything while I was alive, my grandfather and the Douglas County sheriff were drinking and gambling buddies...but they were certainly not overly concerned with laws and breaking them...
Posted on 8/8/24 at 7:47 am to Catahoula
Great Aunt was beheaded for failing to provide a male heir for the King.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:15 am to Catahoula
My family is supposedly related to John West of the West/Kimbrell Gang referred to as the Night Riders but I can not find any proof of of it. Besides that, my dads family is from Vernon Parish so that automatically makes us out laws.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 8:18 am to NyCaLa
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My great uncle (who died in Leavenworth before I was born) went to see about a farm to rent in his area of Kansas. The owner rented to a young married couple instead. I guess he wanted it bad because he killed them both, buried them in the barn, and moved in.
Not the sharpest knife...
I'm not saying a word about my late wife's family. Nope, not a word.
My dad's maternal great grandfather, (so my paternal great great grandfather?) was sharecropping in Shawmut, Alabama and had been offered another place in the county with a nicer house and better dirt by another land owner. When my GGGF told his current land owner that he was leaving the land owner told him he wasn't. This was common for sharecroppers who were more or less property on some places in the south, especially if they had any debt. They got into a fist fight and apparently my GGGF got the better of the land owner and walked back to the house and started packing up their shite to move. The landowner and a couple of other tenants showed up and called the entire family out into the yard. They complied and the land owner pulled a pistol and shot my GGGF graveyard dead right there in the front yard in front of his entire family. The other tenants were also armed and held the family at gunpoint as the land owner approached my GGGF's body and removed his boots, saying something to the effect "you ain't paid for these you white trash son of a bitch". The owner and the other tenants left and when the sheriff showed up they arrested the tenants but the owner was nowhere to be found. The family moved to the other farm and worked it until they started getting jobs in the textile mills in the area. The other farmer they went to work for eventually became the sheriff and was obssessed with finding the man who killed my GGGF....it was rumored that the sheriff was in a relationship with my great grandmother who would have been around 13 or so at the time but I do not know this for a fact. He was in his 50s and was widowed so it would not have been unusual in the era. Anyway he spent several years trying to find the landlord and eventually tracked him down in Cincinatti Ohio where he had been living....as a woman....since fleeing Shawmut several years earlier. The sheriff was not the sheriff at this point, he was merely a farmer from Alabama. He went to Cincinatti, waited for the "woman" to leave their apartment, and confronted her about the killing....she supposedly pulled a pistol out to shoot the former sheriff but it misfired or she missed and the sheriff proceeded to beat her to death. He was arrested but witnesses came forward and told what had ensued and, coupled with the fact that the "woman" he had beaten to death was actually a man, he was released. He returned to Alabama and died a few months later.
My great grandmother told me this story while I was interviewing her for a school project. My grandparents and father knew this story but had never told me about it. A couple of great aunts and uncles were present when their father was killed along with my great grandmother....I was fortunate to be an adult while these people were still alive. They corroborated the story. It may or may not have been as sensational as they told it but some fashion of it is the truth. I was in the eighth grade when I did this school project. Initially my English teacher accused me of making it up. When I told my great grandmother about that she was madder than a wet hen. The teacher called he after I told her about granny getting mad and after that conversation she knew for a certainty that I had not made the story up. That story wound up in some sort of statewide school competition for writing and it won for best story for the eighth grade in....fiction. I never mentioned the category to granny....she knew we had won something but she went to her grave without knowing her story had won in the fiction category....
This story does not end here. I had recorded this interview on a cassette recorder. My teacher asked if she could make copies. We of course told her yes. After giving her the originals she supposedly misplaced them...so they are lost for good. My dad was very unhappy about this and raised hell. She never found the tapes but my dad was told by another teacher that my English teacher had bragged about having the tapes and was using them to write a novel. Again, I have no idea if this is true but my dad, 84 now, will get fighting mad if I mention those tapes to this day. As far as I know if she did write a novel it was never published.
Posted on 8/8/24 at 10:21 pm to Havoc
Holy crap! Hadn't seen that one yet. That fills in some holes and confirms some things. Thanks!
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