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Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:18 pm to
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:18 pm to
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I’m not into foreign cars, so I really don’t care what they do. I buy American made.

The most American made car, by components, are a mix of "Foreign"and "Domestic"

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Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:24 pm to
My POS F-150 was born in Dearborn, MI.
Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
20635 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:25 pm to
Oppps
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5739 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:26 pm to
Frick those striking bastards!!
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17455 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 7:45 pm to
Damnit, I forgot about that...
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23211 posts
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:24 pm to
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TU Rob



You realize that tenure exists BECAUSE of unions, not in spite of them?

The stupid fricks reward seniority over competence and everyone else pays for that bullshite.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:21 am to
What was the sticker price of a comparable model with the same exact drivetrain when they started making them 15 years ago? I'm gonna guess it was around $25k.


Eta: I actually have my original window sticker with MSRP laying around somewhere. That's how I know what the price was back then
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 12:24 am
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7344 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:59 am to
All you little whiney assholes who have never been in a union, but put down on unions should stop and think, "what if unions did not exist in our country?"
You think the companies, both union represented now and not represented would keep your pay as it is? If you think workers would prosper without unions in this country you are an IDIOT! Wages would decline across the board..sure companies would have to remain competitive to maintain a competent work force but overall the pay bar would be lowered while the fat-cat CEO's would swim in money!
So all you IDIOTS out there...be careful what you wish for!
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 5:07 am to
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If you think workers would prosper without unions in this country you are an IDIOT! Wages would decline across the board..sure companies would have to remain competitive to maintain a competent work force but overall the pay bar would be lowered while the fat-cat CEO's would swim in money!


Markets would set your value like it should. Why doesn’t the UAW ask for $150/hour since they just make up numbers?
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11509 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 5:52 am to
Before 5am and we already had the dumbest post of the day. You should really let other people wake up and have a chance before you post something as strong as this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 5:57 am to
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All you little whiney assholes who have never been in a union, but put down on unions should stop and think, "what if unions did not exist in our country?"


Spoken like a true union puppet. Programming is powerful.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:00 am to
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All you little whiney assholes who have never been in a union, but put down on unions should stop and think, "what if unions did not exist in our country?"


I was Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers. (The very first union in the US btw)

Not a fan of the union when I was in it and not a fan now.

How about you Ace?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13129 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:01 am to
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what if unions did not exist in our country?"

Our competitiveness on the world economy would improve dramatically. And prices for thousands of items would go down. There would be a manufacturing renaissance here, millions of jobs would be created, and hundreds of billions of dollars would be saved.

That's a start.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:54 am to
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All you little whiney assholes who have never been in a union, but put down on unions should stop and think, "what if unions did not exist in our country?"
You think the companies, both union represented now and not represented would keep your pay as it is? If you think workers would prosper without unions in this country you are an IDIOT! Wages would decline across the board..sure companies would have to remain competitive to maintain a competent work force but overall the pay bar would be lowered while the fat-cat CEO's would swim in money!
So all you IDIOTS out there...be careful what you wish for!

This. Glad we have some common sense around here.

The posters that are anti-union are the ones that were born with a silver spoon in their mouths.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13129 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:13 am to
You don't need a silver spoon to be anti union. Just a basic class in economics will do.

GM's absurd union contracts are what ran it into bankruptcy. It should have been broken up and bought out by private equity. It would be a growing, competitive, cutting edge company. Offering vehicles at lower prices.

Now it is just a bloated make work program for corrupt unions and their political hacks. Next economic cycle it will be bankrupt again. Eventually the union jobs will be entirely replaced with robots. You can't ignore economic laws forever.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25538 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:19 am to
GM leadership walking past the picket lines like

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45129 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:20 am to
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All you little whiney assholes who have never been in a union, but put down on unions should stop and think, "what if unions did not exist in our country?"


I was in a union for several years and got nothing in return for it except paying dues so my union rep could fly all over the place and live the high life.

frick unions.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 7:21 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17345 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:31 am to
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So all you IDIOTS out there...be careful what you wish for!



Literally no downside for GM/Ford/FCA and the country if the UAW was busted and broken.

The UAW provides value to its leadership - and puts their own member’s jobs at risk by leaching their employers to death.

The taxpayers had to fix a UAW-caused mess before. frick the corrupt UAW for trying to create another mess.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 7:33 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:32 am to
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You don't need a silver spoon to be anti union. Just a basic class in economics will do.


Taught by teachers who belong to a union?
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17345 posts
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:33 am to
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Taught by teachers who belong to a union?


They teach valuable lessons on why it’s important to avoid union labor...they just don’t realize it.
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