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re: Growing crops/own vegetables?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:49 pm to TheFonz
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:49 pm to TheFonz
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I may not be a farmer, but what separates people like us from the leeches of society is that we have the motivation and capacity to learn how to farm when the need arises.
I think the idea is that people used to pass this information down to each other, and it's kind of been lost in the era of corporate farming. Family farms once fed the local communities, that's just not the case anymore.
Farming is largely corporate and subsidized, the average farm family now makes over 300k a year selling one product to BigCorp.
We certainly wouldn't hit the ground running, I wouldn't at this point and time. I would have a lot of catching up to do. Some would be starting from scratch, that's not something that will yield you a good field immediately.
Given enough time, people can learn anything. Many would starve before producing good crops though.
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Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:49 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:Same story throughout all of human history.
There's alot of things my generation and the younger ones couldn't do. Not because they couldn't find it on YouTube, but because they are lazy and don't want to work.
quote:All it takes is knowledge and effort. Failure on either can only be attributed to disinterest (some may refer to this as laziness). Agree?
My youngest sister (early to mid 20s, no pics) couldn't grow a garden to save her life. Neither could half of my wife's siblings. Hell, my wife can only keep a cactus alive.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 1:50 pm to Korkstand
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All it takes is knowledge and effort.
Would take you years.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
That’s why I have food stocked and can hunt.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:So the thing is that a shitload of the tech, tools, materials, chemicals, techniques, and just general knowledge of producing food that today's farms take advantage of was developed by people who weren't working the fields every day. And I bet a lot of farmers throughout history thought these people were "lazy". But as a result it takes relatively few people to supply the world with food. That's what an economy and specialization does.
We certainly wouldn't hit the ground running, I wouldn't at this point and time. I would have a lot of catching up to do. Some would be starting from scratch, that's not something that will yield you a good field immediately.
If we truly had to reboot agriculture, there is no better point in history to do that than right now. We just know too much, and there are probably far fewer truly lazy people than you think.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:04 pm to Korkstand
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It's like all these people saying farming is hard have never tried to do anything harder.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:With weak insults like that, looks like you know a thing or two about low effort.quote:Would take you years.
All it takes is knowledge and effort.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:14 pm to kciDAtaE
Well this is what the folks with no knowledge unlimited resources came up with in Seattle
This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:26 pm to sabes que
I wish I didn't grow so well, these tomatoes are out of control this year.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:28 pm to Piebald Panther
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Well this is what the folks with no knowledge unlimited resources came up with in Seattle
Yeah..
Seattle is one of the first cities I see going under when shite hits the fan. Those people are soft.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:32 pm to Korkstand
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With weak insults
This is the thing that tells me you're in far over your head.
It takes anyone years to yield good crops, if you have never grown your own food. Your dumb arse thought I was putting you down...
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:47 pm to Piebald Panther
quote:Ah, right, a photo of the shittiest, early stage, impromptu garden one could find proves that people can't grow plants.
Well this is what the folks with no knowledge unlimited resources came up with in Seattle
And yet, shite is still growing. On top of cardboard because they didn't want to till up land they don't own.
If a bunch of lazy and stupid socialists can get things to grow without even breaking ground in the middle of a "war zone" (it was a war zone, right?), how exactly does this prove that it's hard to do?
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:49 pm to Korkstand
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lazy and stupid socialists can get things to grow
They didn't. What do you think that's going to yield?
@you thinking their growing their food.This post was edited on 7/30/21 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Nice save attempt, but so transparent. If that's what you were really trying to say, you would have said that. But you didn't.
It takes anyone years to yield good crops, if you have never grown your own food. Your dumb arse thought I was putting you down...
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:58 pm to Korkstand
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Nice save attempt, but so transparent.
Exactly what I have been saying, Jethro.
It takes years to become a competent farmer. You aren't the type. You and them Seattle boys might come up with a better plan though.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:58 pm to TigerOnTheMountain
quote:My tomatoes were crappy this year...too much damn rain. Cucumbers exploded before they were ready to pick and only the peppers are worth a shite right now.
I can guarantee you would produce only a handful of tomatoes if you tried.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:58 pm to sabes que
Sustaining yourself by growing your own crops isn’t as easy as you think it might be. Most vegetables are also low in calories
Posted on 7/30/21 at 2:59 pm to sabes que
These days, I just grow the stuff that isn't as much work, tomatoes, squash, peppers. The beans and peas are too much like work.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:01 pm to whiskey over ice
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Sustaining yourself by growing your own crops isn’t as easy as you think it might be.
Lots of folks are now also raising chickens. I have enough fish and shellfish to supplement.
Posted on 7/30/21 at 3:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Point to where I said that garden was expected to feed people?
They didn't. What do you think that's going to yield?
You really struggle with the language, eh? Seems about as much as you struggle with recognizing the difference between a community building exercise vs an earnest attempt at self-sufficiency.
On top of cardboard, man. So they wouldn't tear up public land. I understand that some may need to inflate their own self-worth, but come on.
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