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re: How well does commercial construction management pay?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:41 pm to Powerman
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:41 pm to Powerman
I’d let them make the offer.
If I had to guess asking what you were making before may automatically exclude you from consideration.
Local commercial work the rates are just lower across the board.
Of course there are exceptions but in my experience the guys making serious money as a commercial PM also live out of a suitcase.
If I had to guess asking what you were making before may automatically exclude you from consideration.
Local commercial work the rates are just lower across the board.
Of course there are exceptions but in my experience the guys making serious money as a commercial PM also live out of a suitcase.
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:42 pm to AndyCBR
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Of course there are exceptions but in my experience the guys making serious money as a commercial PM also live out of a suitcase.
I've spent several years on the road doing industrial work
Posted on 5/13/20 at 3:52 pm to Powerman
I would look into what impacts COVID may have on the future prospects of commercial construction compared to industrial construction. Also, do they do only new construction or do they do retrofits? Big stores are closing left and right...there will be glut of empty office/commercial space.
I have no idea what the answer is but a salary bump won't really mean anything if that sector comes to a grinding halt in nine months.
I have no idea what the answer is but a salary bump won't really mean anything if that sector comes to a grinding halt in nine months.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:20 pm to Powerman
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I've spent several years on the road doing industrial work
I hear you.
Then I would expect to make less doing the same duty in Commercial construction. Perhaps it may be different in a much larger market.
Good luck in your search.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:24 pm to Powerman
senior PM in the commercial mechanical side $75-85k salary + benefits + bonus is my guess. not sure what E/I is paying
EDIT: glass door says $89k in houston area, but that doesnt break out commercial and industrial. say $60-149k, with my guess being the $149k is industrial side.
EDIT: glass door says $89k in houston area, but that doesnt break out commercial and industrial. say $60-149k, with my guess being the $149k is industrial side.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 5/13/20 at 4:41 pm to kingbob
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The flip side is that the hours are typically much less strenuous, far more lax about things like facial hair and drug testing, more job security, way less travel, easier time taking vacation days, and an order of magnitude less dangerous.
I have been in industrial construction for 24 years and have many good friends, colleagues and acquaintances that work in all facets of commercial construction. I disagree with all of this except maybe the facial hair and drug testing and I have had facial hair on quite a few greenfield industrial sites if that's important to you.
You manage subs and do a lot of your own estimating, scheduling, contracting and safety (when it exists). All those support jobs in industrial are done by the PM on the commercial side. Scale and complexity. And as stated a number of times the pay is markedly less.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:21 pm to msap9020
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The flip side is that the hours are typically much less strenuous, far more lax about things like facial hair and drug testing, more job security, way less travel, easier time taking vacation days, and an order of magnitude less dangerous.
I disagree with this as well. I’ve been in industrial for 15 years and have buddies in commercial. Yeah the drug testing may be mute, but the bullshite aint. I’ve been tempted by the commercial carrot, but the grass ain’t always greener. Plus the industrial carrots are fat as hell compared to commercial.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:32 pm to Nottelling
Just my opinion, but I wouldn’t go by any previous pay scales. No reason for many companies to pay the same as 4-6 months ago unless they are in a business that has not been effected. Construction future is potentially spotty. Id take a job and work on moving up later.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:39 pm to keks tadpole
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Undergrads fresh out of BSC AU are pulling 75K+ with the $1B revenue per year companies like Harbert, Gorrie, and Universal.
I graduated BSCI from auburn 12 years ago... damn have the beginning salaries really jumped
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:42 pm to Powerman
I have a friend who I'm pretty sure makes like $300k, but he is also a Michigan engineering major and MBA. He runs build-out projects for companies in big city offices.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:47 pm to AndyCBR
Thanks. I've been applying for industrial jobs as well and would prefer that.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 6:39 pm to keks tadpole
Okay. An APM will earn up to about $60k top end.
A PM will make up to about $80k.
A Sr PM will make between $80-$100k
A Project Executive will make $100-$120
As mentioned by previous poster, this is for $1b+ annual revenue like:
B&G
Yates
Hoar
DPR
JE Dunn
Holder
Turner
Vaughn
Swinerton
Balfour Beatty
BL Harbert
Austin Commercial
Archer Western
Gilbane
Etc......
Some of the big multi family GCs like JPI, MCRT, TCC, Street Lights, etc. would probably pay similarly.
Local construction firms about $10k less per rung across the board.
The VP/DM position at a big company like that is $140-$175. The C level group along with EVPs Sr. VPS and Director level vary from firm to firm. Director level is lowest on the executive management rung. Most make about the same as a VP/DM. Sr, VPs and EVPs north of $200k. C level guys north of $250k up to $500k for CEO.
These are salaries. Bonus incentives vary from firm to firm. Allowances and other benefits vary.
A PM will make up to about $80k.
A Sr PM will make between $80-$100k
A Project Executive will make $100-$120
As mentioned by previous poster, this is for $1b+ annual revenue like:
B&G
Yates
Hoar
DPR
JE Dunn
Holder
Turner
Vaughn
Swinerton
Balfour Beatty
BL Harbert
Austin Commercial
Archer Western
Gilbane
Etc......
Some of the big multi family GCs like JPI, MCRT, TCC, Street Lights, etc. would probably pay similarly.
Local construction firms about $10k less per rung across the board.
The VP/DM position at a big company like that is $140-$175. The C level group along with EVPs Sr. VPS and Director level vary from firm to firm. Director level is lowest on the executive management rung. Most make about the same as a VP/DM. Sr, VPs and EVPs north of $200k. C level guys north of $250k up to $500k for CEO.
These are salaries. Bonus incentives vary from firm to firm. Allowances and other benefits vary.
This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 5/13/20 at 6:44 pm to Dick Leverage
I would've thought these jobs paid more, across the board. Seems like a difficult role to fill, and a lot of work.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:22 pm to Dick Leverage
What salaries and bonuses do PM’s in industrial command?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:48 pm to Powerman
I work for one larger one in Metairie, but my division is building buildings in plants.our benefits are really well. Industrial pays better than commercial.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:49 pm to kingbob
Uh... wrong. Not if you work for a professional company.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:56 pm to back9Tiger
I work for a big commercial GC out of Houston.
Pay ranges on the office side are:
PE: 60-75
APM: 75-90
PM: 90-110
Sr. PM 110-130
PX: 130-170
With 12 yrs of experience you would be in that Sr. PM range at my company.
Pay ranges on the office side are:
PE: 60-75
APM: 75-90
PM: 90-110
Sr. PM 110-130
PX: 130-170
With 12 yrs of experience you would be in that Sr. PM range at my company.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:57 pm to Powerman
We probably work for the same company. Why are you leaving?
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:28 pm to ATL249
Sorry. I have never worked in that sector so I don’t know.
Posted on 5/13/20 at 9:54 pm to baseballmind1212
This is about what it is for the company I work for as well. Some of the numbers people are throwing out in here are shockingly low.
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