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Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:57 am to RoosterCogburn585
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And I think engineers love to overcomplicate issues. Any of you plant baws feel the same way?
I am an engineer. I spent the first half of my career in plants, the second half in automation sales and support.
When I was working in manufacturing, I heard stuff like you posted from the biggest excuse making morons and cowards I ever worked with. The real bananas in the exhaust pipe were afraid of any kind of change and would work against and sometimes sabotage improvements.
Most of those jobs are in Mexico now.
That doesn't make what you said untrue or at least partially true, and no down vote from me, just that the same excuse was used by the same managers and people in factories that are either shut down today or are a shell of what they used to be, largely because of stagnant, ignorant, or just plain scared management.
Remember, the dinosaurs couldn't adapt either.
This post was edited on 3/4/26 at 9:20 am
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:58 am to RoosterCogburn585
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I am an engineer
Is it really that hard to drive a train when you have tracks to drive it on?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 8:59 am to UptownJoeBrown
quote:who has them horizontal?
I knew an engineer that had to have all the screw slits holding outlet covers on in his house be in the vertical position.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:00 am to The Mick
quote:you’re talking about Gaston huh?
Do you hold an engineering degree or are you the fix-it guy referred to as an engineer?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:01 am to LNCHBOX
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Factually incorrect, and I have a PE
Do explain. If you cannot stamp a set of construction drawings, you are not an engineer.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:02 am to RoosterCogburn585
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And I think engineers love to overcomplicate issues.
in commercial construction, so don't deal with engineers too much... but do NOT ask me my thoughts on architects
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:02 am to Homey the Clown
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Do explain. If you cannot stamp a set of construction drawings, you are not an engineer.
There are more kinds of engineers than that. I'd expect a licensed professional to have come across some over the years, or at least be able to Google.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:04 am to RoosterCogburn585
Are you like a Choo Choo engineer
Or
A tinker toy engineer?
Or
A tinker toy engineer?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:11 am to LNCHBOX
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I'd expect a licensed professional to have come across some over the years
I'm not an engineer. But I've been working in the engineering field for almost 20 years. Commercial and industrial. There's a reason the plants call us to to have our P.E. run calcs for suggestions that their on staff engineer, who isn't a P.E. comes up with. Because their on staff engineer isn't qualified to do so. Same reason our employees with engineering degrees have their work checked by our P.E.s.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:12 am to LNCHBOX
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I love when people who have an engineering degree call themselves engineers. Unless you are a P.E., you aren't an engineer.
Factually incorrect, and I have a PE
PEs are the only engineers that put *E on their email sigs. For that reason, I am out.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:14 am to Gee Grenouille
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PEs are the only engineers that put *E on their email sigs. For that reason, I am out.
In a professional setting, why wouldn't you?
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:51 am to NIH
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Engineers make me laugh with their fancy degrees and big words. They couldn’t get their hands dirty, drink and drive after work, or have to pay child support like I do
We've never met. I had a mentor who told me there are 2 kinds - the mood light pocket protector types and the ones who get things done, so make your choice early. I've been a company man on drilling rigs, a well control engineer, a drilling consultant, ran a directional company's operations, workover engineer, and production engineer, and ops director all over the world. Would not have gotten far if I did not get directly involved in the labor, especially early on when I had the opportunity to learn by doing. We exist, there just aren't many of us.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 9:56 am to RoosterCogburn585
I'm an engineer too. A custodial engineer (Or janitor if you want to be a dick)
Posted on 3/4/26 at 10:03 am to NIH
On Cactus 101 rig, they pretty much left us alone when you broke out the waterhose.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 10:05 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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What kind of engineer?
They are talking about Industrial. I can tell because in the commercial world I have to essentially make my drawings look like a lego instruction book because there are so many idiots.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 10:07 am to junkfunky
We have plenty of idiots in the industrial world too.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 10:13 am to RoosterCogburn585
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And I think engineers love to overcomplicate issues. Any of you plant baws feel the same way?
yes and no. I just ended 45 yrs in the plants and I have seen great engineers, mediocre ones, and really bad/dangerous ones.
But as you asked I have seen this a lot. I have learned in about 30 yrs of operations experience that 80% of most problems that pop up are simple. They may be well hidded but still simple. I have fallen into this hole myself a few times.
When something has run well for a long time and then just develops a problem then it is most likely a single issue solution. If working on continuous improvement and efficiency it can get complicated.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 10:19 am to Homey the Clown
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If you cannot stamp a set of construction drawings, you are not an engineer.
Posted on 3/4/26 at 10:20 am to RoosterCogburn585
I went out to a satellite rig with spool pieces that had been pre-fabricated for the job. Did not fit. Welder on the job went off on how the engineer responsible really didn’t know shite from shinola and spent the next eight hours cutting, fitting and welding the spools into place. Luckily we got supper when we got back to the platform.
I like engineers, interesting minds, but that welder was funnier than shite with his comments. Apparently wasn’t the first time an engineer had fricked up his day.
I like engineers, interesting minds, but that welder was funnier than shite with his comments. Apparently wasn’t the first time an engineer had fricked up his day.
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