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Posted on 1/9/26 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Nole Man
Somewhere In Tennessee!
Member since May 2011
8811 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 4:49 pm to
Whether she "turned the wheel" or not. Whether he shouldn't have gotten in front of the vehicle and drawn his weapon or not. Whether she was a "leftist" and FAFO or not really isn't really the crux of this unfortunate incident.

Setting aside political considerations, there's really only one main point here: Compliance with commands from law enforcement officers. It is generally accepted that law enforcement officers—whether police, sheriffs, or federal agents—must have their commands followed promptly when approaching a vehicle. In high-pressure situations involving firearms, decisions are made within moments, and moving a vehicle in any direction toward officers can result in serious and potentially tragic consequences.

When instructed to stop by ICE or any armed law enforcement agency, compliance is critical to ensuring the safety of all parties involved. This remains an unfortunate situation for everyone affected.

Nevertheless, adherence to commands given at the scene may have prevented this outcome.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56233 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 4:53 pm to
You’re right he should have just done nothing and let her get away with hitting him with deadly weapon.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35043 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 4:54 pm to


quote:

Southeastern LA


Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
137604 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 4:55 pm to
Correct, but the left doesn't recognize the authority, so this happens.

And train people like her to obstruct.
This post was edited on 1/9/26 at 4:58 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35782 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Did the gun change the trajectory of the bullet?
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130688 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 4:58 pm to
ICE doesn’t even have jurisdiction over US citizens. The fact that she got killed by one is extremely problematic.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103768 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Did the gun change the trajectory of the bullet?


Wait... what?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
73652 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:01 pm to
Honestly he was in his right to shoot the car moving at him but it wasn't the right choice. He was holding a cell phone and stepped in front the car and was pulling his gun already. He's she should have got out the car. But i also think she was scared.
He could have just as easily stepped aside let her go then using her licensec plate went and got her later.
But he chose to kill her. He put more people at risk as officers are trained not to shoot into cars. But this is not about the shooting. It's a right vs left issue now.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11417 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has powers to identify, arrest, detain, and remove individuals in the U.S. without legal status, enforce over 400 federal laws (like human trafficking), conduct investigations, and use force when necessary, with distinct divisions like Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) (apprehension/removal) and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) (transnational crime) handling different aspects of its mission.

Their authority includes stopping people on reasonable suspicion, arresting suspected undocumented immigrants, and managing detention facilities.

Key Enforcement Powers
Identification & Arrest: Agents can initiate encounters, detain individuals with reasonable suspicion of unlawful presence, and arrest them.

Detention & Removal: Manage detention facilities and carry out deportations for those ordered removed.

Investigations: Conduct investigations into various criminal activities, including those related to immigration, human trafficking, and child exploitation, enforcing hundreds of laws.

Warrants: Can obtain warrants, though these differ from typical criminal warrants and require probable cause of removability.

Use of Force: Authorized to use force when they have reasonable grounds to believe it's necessary for an arrest or to protect themselves or others, according to DHS policy.

Workplace Enforcement: Can audit employers for Form I-9 compliance and impose fines.


you were saying?
Posted by Logician
Grinning Colonizer
Member since Jul 2013
4949 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

ICE doesn’t even have jurisdiction over US citizen


quote:

does ice have jurisdiction over US citizens?

Yes—but only in limited ways. ICE does not have general immigration jurisdiction over U.S. citizens.

Here’s the clear breakdown:

What ICE does NOT have authority to do to U.S. citizens

? Detain, arrest, or deport someone for immigration violations if they are a U.S. citizen

? Treat a U.S. citizen as “removable” under immigration law

? Hold a citizen on a civil immigration warrant or detainer

If ICE knowingly holds a U.S. citizen solely for civil immigration purposes, that is unlawful.

What ICE can do involving U.S. citizens

ICE agents are still federal law enforcement officers, so they may:

? Investigate and arrest U.S. citizens for federal crimes (e.g., assault on a federal officer, harboring, fraud, obstruction)


? Question someone to determine identity or citizenship status (briefly and reasonably)

? Detain temporarily if they have reasonable suspicion the person is not a citizen—but they must release the person once citizenship is established
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
14561 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:10 pm to
The mental infancy of the left is on full display these days. Good job
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8899 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

The body cam footage is out. Anyone with a brain can see that it was a justified shooting.



At least one person will read your post and change their mind and realize that it was definitely a justified shooting, because that's how message boards work.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50971 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:17 pm to
Was it not a justified shooting?
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9840 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

ICE doesn’t even have jurisdiction over US citizens. The fact that she got killed by one is extremely problematic.


Oh for fricks sake. Try driving at any sworn officer at any level, state or local, and youre Justifiably going to die.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
1812 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:26 pm to
Downvote 101 and my only regret is a hundred people beat me to it.

And that you have access to the internet.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14149 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:27 pm to
The justification for use of deadly force is if you feel the perpetrator represents a threat of serious bodily harm to yourself or others nearby.

While the vehicle was too close to the officer to keep him from getting hit, his justification was to protect others - such as the officer who was reaching into the vehicle, other officers in the scene, or bystanders who could be injured by an SUV accelerating rapidly on an icy street.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8899 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Was it not a justified shooting?



I'm leaning towards yes it was a justified shooting, but I can't say for sure. Hopefully more data and evidence will emerge.

In my opinion, if anyone has a strong opinion, they are just being guided by their biases and what they want to see and hope that happens.
Posted by EastWestConnection
Denver/Shenzhen/Belfast
Member since Jul 2024
1646 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:31 pm to
quote:

Yall being obsessed over an objectively sad situation is what’s wrong with America



within milliseconds of anything bad happening everyone runs to their corner where they can come up with an explanation about why its the other sides fault and the person deserved it. Every time, it's the knee jerk reaction. Its sickening. Everyone in this country fricking hates each other.
Posted by DocSavage
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2005
350 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:37 pm to
He didn't shoot to protect himself. His position was intentional. He had put his life on the line, knowing that he could be run over but that he might be able to stop her. That is what he is trained to do. He reacted when she escalated by weaponizing her vehicle. He shot her in order to prevent her from harming others. His survival is a priority but protecting innocent bystanders and other law enforcement personnel is the primary goal.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74066 posts
Posted on 1/9/26 at 5:40 pm to
Correct if aim wrong, but weren’t you the leaking vagina earlier who asked, “how would you feel if it was your Mom who got murdered?1?1

Is this your latest attempt to move the goal posts while defending your fellow comrade?

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