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re: Is Construction Management a good field to get into
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:01 am to Yeti_Chaser
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:01 am to Yeti_Chaser
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Yeti_Chaser
Base is 75k
Truck allowance is 500/month pre-tax
Up to 20% bonus op every year.
Misc. Other benefits include: up to 4% 401k match, 85/month cell allowance, 1500/yr HSA contribution.
My compensation package is pretty much par for the course with my position in most major commercial GC's here in Houston. I recently job shopped, had multiple offers with other companies, both national and local, all within a couple thousand dollars of each other.
My company's base pay rate for field guys pretty much goes like this:
Field engineer (new grad-3/5 years out): ~60k
Assistant Super (3/5 years out school) - ~75k+
Superintendent (5/7 years out) - ~100k
Senior Super (7/10 years out) - ~120k+
Obviously the higher you go the better
Your car allowance and bonus opps get.
The field side is rough, long hours/lots of BS. However, the shortage of young (35 and under) field Superintendents is blatantly obvious.
If you have 5+ years of field experience on mildly successful projects you are worth your weight in gold in the Houston market.
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Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:10 am to baseballmind1212
Interesting, I'm also in houston and kinda surprised that I dont know you. So why did you move to houston and not switch to O&G? Just curious because if you're gonna live here anyway you might as well set yourself up for the highest ceiling possible right?
Eta: I dont mean that as disrespect either. I'm just trying to get a feel for different opportunities and gather different perspectives
Eta: I dont mean that as disrespect either. I'm just trying to get a feel for different opportunities and gather different perspectives
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 12:12 am
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:11 am to baseballmind1212
Man, no offense but screw commercial construction. We self perform 95%+ of our own work. You couldn’t pay me enough to deal with subs all day. F that noise. There are way too many plants and too many industrial jobs for me to ever think about going into commercial. Much More money in industrial. The margins we operate at are nearly 10x more than commercial.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 12:16 am
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:14 am to Marlo Stanfield
Also curious to hear your perspective. I work in O&G and I deal with subs all the time. What industry are you in where that's not an issue
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:16 am to Yeti_Chaser
Industrial heavy civil gc in Houston area. We handle everything from the anchor bolts down, including pile driving. On occasion I run projects involving light structural steel, pumps, carbon steel pipe, etc. The only stuff we sub out is electrical(usually grounding although we have started to do our own), big bore underground pipe(if it is something hooked to a pump with crazy tight tolerances), millwrights, some core drilling, scaffolding. Other than that, we are doing it with our own people and own equipment.
We handle our own firewater piping, whether it is cs, hdpe, or ductile iron.
We handle our own firewater piping, whether it is cs, hdpe, or ductile iron.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 12:28 am
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:29 am to Marlo Stanfield
I feel so poor reading this thread
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:33 am to Marlo Stanfield
Sounds like yall are the sub
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:35 am to Yeti_Chaser
We can be on a big project. We are a gc but generally what we do would be considered a sub or specialty contractor. On a normal project we are working for the owner directly. On a mega project we are working for whoever the epc is.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 1:37 am to Tigahhs97
Civil engineers look down on you.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 6:58 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Civil engineers look down on you.
Funny. I hire architects and other design consultants for design-build services. These same consultants are contacting me all the time looking for their next gig.
Consultants don’t get into the big money until they own or are partners of their firm and have associate designers work under them.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:18 am to 4LSU2
What y’all want to know? BigPerm is an expert in this field.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:57 am to Tigahhs97
It’s treated me pretty well. 12 years in a commercial before getting out and going to work in a plant. Still doing C.M. stuff though
I’ll tell you this, it’s a great time to get into the industry. When I graduated I was the youngest person at my company until around 2013. The old guard that was past retirement age ten years ago is really past it now. If you get in, get out to the field and learn. There will be a ton of opportunities in the industry for a young guy here pretty quick.
I’ll add that any time I have the ability to hire people, I definitely give C.M. grads an interview.
I’ll tell you this, it’s a great time to get into the industry. When I graduated I was the youngest person at my company until around 2013. The old guard that was past retirement age ten years ago is really past it now. If you get in, get out to the field and learn. There will be a ton of opportunities in the industry for a young guy here pretty quick.
I’ll add that any time I have the ability to hire people, I definitely give C.M. grads an interview.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 7:58 am
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:11 am to Tigahhs97
I've hired a lot of lsu cm grads and now start them in the low 70s range.
When I graduated in the early 2000's I made 45. Within a relatively short time I was in the 6 figures. I work about 45hours a week.
There arent many majors out there with numbers like that. As the industry continues to modernize and the older guys retire off the hours won't be as much of a requirement. And the upward movement because the average age of a management level employee (mid 50's) is so high is unlimited.
The key is to get in the right field. lsu's cm department pushes the field that donates money to the program. They don't donate to the fields that make their students money.
When I graduated in the early 2000's I made 45. Within a relatively short time I was in the 6 figures. I work about 45hours a week.
There arent many majors out there with numbers like that. As the industry continues to modernize and the older guys retire off the hours won't be as much of a requirement. And the upward movement because the average age of a management level employee (mid 50's) is so high is unlimited.
The key is to get in the right field. lsu's cm department pushes the field that donates money to the program. They don't donate to the fields that make their students money.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 8:14 am
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:20 am to baobabtiger
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baobabtiger
You still hiring?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:55 pm to TheEnglishman
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More like 40s.....
$40s for residential or on the low end of commercial. When I first got out of college, my base was $70k and made a little over $150k total for the first year.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 9/16/19 at 3:55 pm to Tigahhs97
Yep
Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:00 pm to BugAC
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I've never heard of a single person making $70k directly out of college in CM, with no experience. Ever.
Unless inflation is much greater than it was in the mid 2000's.
Well, I can tell you it does happen. I know myself and another person that graduated both got $70k straight from college. I knew a couple other people that got on PCI or MMR that were getting about $65k too.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 4:14 pm to Yeti_Chaser
quote:Wind. We self-perform all work except foundations (just way too much risk). It's nice because all business units are working for the same goal...to get the frick off that site!
Also curious to hear your perspective. I work in O&G and I deal with subs all the time. What industry are you in where that's not an issue
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:02 pm to Tigahhs97
I work in commercial, it's extremely long hours and average pay. Most jobs have 5+ subs, really looking to transfer into industrial.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:27 pm to Carson123987
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civil is my weakest area for sure, wish I could just follow a stud civil guy around for a month.
Your boss is a pretty good dirt dauber.
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