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re: Is the hydroxyclorquine working or not?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:56 am to cwil177
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:56 am to cwil177
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No, not even close. Are you really that dumb?
Aww someone mad?
Fauci is a fraud, up there downplaying the use of Hydrox, hoping for terrible things, so he can get his 15 min of fame to 20 min. Dude is a puppet of the WHO and Clinton Foundation.
And like a c unt, you try to shift the point of what I posted. No where did he say it was his data or his analysis, he was just sharing a study out of France. He doesn’t have to be an expert to do that. Doesn’t change the underlying data.
But keep on keeping on...
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:00 am to Lsut81
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Fauci is a fraud, up there downplaying the use of Hydrox, hoping for terrible things, so he can get his 15 min of fame
By all means, discount the words of a doctor on the front lines of the fight while elevating the words of a TV doctor trying to hold on to his 15 minutes of fame.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:00 am to Lsut81
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Fauci is a fraud, up there downplaying the use of Hydrox, hoping for terrible things, so he can get his 15 min of fame to 20 min. Dude is a puppet of the WHO and Clinton Foundation.
Go back to the poli board
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And like a c unt,
Name calling. Wait, who is the mad one here? Lol
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:03 am to LSUtigerMD
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I love how the same people that promote you should vape CBD oil for your anxiety (which is not scientifically proven, not FDA regulated, and potentially harmful) are against a FDA approved and regulated medication that has been around for several years and could potentially save many lives.
Here's the abstract from the patent on CBD, as held by our government since 98
Granted anxiety isn't listed, but you do see neuroprotectant there, despite years of them saying it kills brain cells. quote:
Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention. A particular disclosed class of cannabinoids useful as neuroprotective antioxidants is formula (I) wherein the R group is independently selected from the group consisting of H, CH3, and COCH3.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:04 am to The Spleen
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By all means, discount the words of a doctor on the front lines of the fight while elevating the words of a TV doctor trying to hold on to his 15 minutes of fame.
On the front lines? Dude hasn’t left the Whitehouse in 2 months...
You know, the guy who touts his friendship and how great of a guy the head of the WHO is
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:06 am to cwil177
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Name calling. Wait, who is the mad one here? Lol
I’m perfectly fine... I’m not the one who avoided the information bc they didn’t like it.
A c unt is a c unt... call them like I see them.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:09 am to Lsut81
You didn’t present any information to refute. You quoted doctor Oz and then equated him to Fauci. You really don’t think that one might be more qualified than the other to discuss a pandemic? If so, you’re a lost cause.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:15 am to cwil177
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You quoted doctor Oz and then equated him to Fauci
Not even close... quit trying to spin shite.
I said take what he is saying with a grain of salt, but data out of a French study shows xxxx
You said Oz is a hack, which has nothing to do with what he said... his passing info is no different then Fauci sitting up there passing false info and defending the WHO.
Remember, “masks don’t work” or saying “120-200k people will die”
Fauci is more qualified than Oz, but that has nothing to do with this instance.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:22 am to Lsut81
Well give me the French data then. Every study they’ve put out has shown minimal change from standard of care, and possibly worse results than standard of care, in addition to the studies being severely methodologically flawed. Most doctors reading these studies can point out that the data is almost useless without randomization, a placebo control, and blinding. Dr. Oz somehow doesn’t see that.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:23 am to cwil177
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Fauci sitting up there passing false info and defending the WHO.
What false information do you think he is passing?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:24 am to The Shed
From my understanding, it does work to an extent. It has helped a ton of people get over this thing slightly. But it is not the end-all-be-all miracle cure that will end Corona once and for all that we were all hoping for. It won't do a thing for the people who are already critical, and unfortunately, there's a lot of people who are already critical.
Even still, it looks to be the best option we've got for now.
Even still, it looks to be the best option we've got for now.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:43 am to MoarKilometers
I didn’t say CBD had no medicinal value. I said it is not regulated by the FDA so any yahoo off the street could open a store and sell concoctions claiming it was CBD and the consumer had no way of knowing what they were getting. Testing of many of these products showed all kinds of other crap was included in some of these concoctions. I used anxiety as an example for a reason- no scientific evidence, but this is one of the most common reasons I hear for people using it. Finally, vaping CBD oil can be harmful yet most people I see choose this as a delivery method. My point was none of this matters for CBD users, but the same people will say plaquenil is a “bad drug” and it doesn’t work.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 9:59 am
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:48 am to LSUtigerMD
Fauci is more of a hack than Oz when it comes to this.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:51 am to Lsut81
That is likely has something to do with the virus attaching at ACE2 on the pneumocyte.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:00 am to Methuselah
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If that's the case, it seems like they would also be trying actual immuno-suppressants. I take two different ones to keep my immune system from rejecting a liver transplant. Heck, we've been worrying that we are in more danger due to suppressed immune system
I take Low dose naltrexone for MS- which stimulates my immune system, but it is shown to reduce cytokine storms and inflammation. I am hopeful it will help.
Hydroxychloroquine stops inflammation, I've heard it's this property that helps- as the cytokine storm is your bodies response to inflammation. I've also heard lowering immune system works as well. At this point, I believe no one truly knows and we will just have to see if we are okay if we get it.
Good luck to us both. Be well, stay safe.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:02 am to Lsut81
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Fauci is a fraud,
No doubt. Dude needs to stop talking
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"The American people should not be worried or frightened by this. It's a very, very low risk to the United States," Dr. Fauci said on The CATS Roundtable. "It isn't something that the American public needs to worry about or be frightened about."
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:04 am to The Shed
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:11 am to heatom2
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I doubt it's doing a lot of harm, it's a drug we know a lot about.
Even if it was neutral - no bad reactions but just not being effective the left would have the information on every channel. They would be rushing to cameras to talk about how the Trump drug protocol has been shown to be useless in the fight against the CV-19 in most cases.
Like other have said, the silence around the trials speaks volumes about its effectiveness. Can't have 1) Trump getting any credit for seeing it early and 2) give people the assurance that they can be treated. As soon as there is a plausible solution to this issue the "social distancing" music stops.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:15 am to keks tadpole
I know someone who was positive and said it's something you definitely don't want. BUT he didn't get the meds .. NOLA "area" and I'm not sure why. His fingers were turning blue .. I mean I personally would have hauled my husbands arse to the hospital but he toughed it out at home.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:17 am to The Shed
You guys make it sound like medicine isn’t simple yes or No
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