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re: Is white privilege a real thing?
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:23 am to 13SaintTiger
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:23 am to 13SaintTiger
Oh I know. I was just addressing the whole white privilege bit. I'm white, but I certainly experienced discrimination other white people have not because of my ethnicity and family origin. My point is that privilege is a moving target that can't be split into a dichotomy of black and white.
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Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:24 am to Rouge
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Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:24 am to trom83
no
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:24 am to trom83
frick ya and I love it!
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:25 am to 13SaintTiger
It doesn't matter what race you are as long as you are an upstanding citizen. Just look at the response to Jamal in the main thread. Pages and pages of admiration for the kid. Not a bad word was said about him. To the contrary, people make fun of the dumb arse white people all of the time....just as much as dumb arse black people.
People would choose to be a respectable, successful black guy over a POS white guy any day of the week
People would choose to be a respectable, successful black guy over a POS white guy any day of the week
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:25 am to Maverick01
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Haha, considering you're a white guy saying white privilege no longer exists, quite honestly your opinion means frick all to me. Until you miraculously find a way to become a black man then I suggest you keep your mouth shut. You have not the faintest clue what blacks endure because YOU AREN'T BLACK!
I'm not white by the way. Yes I've experinced some racism but not much. I do believe white privilege exists but only to some extent.
But if it's only whites find it easier to do well than how do Asians (Indians as well which I am) vastly outperform other racial groups including whites?
Or how about blacks that immigrate to the U.S. and on avgerage have a higher household income than that of American blacks? But aren't they black too?
White privilege is used as an excuse too often and puts blame on others rather than one's self.
This post was edited on 7/9/16 at 10:26 am
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:27 am to nes2010
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Not nearly as much as they say. I will admit that I have never been searched after being pulled over and I probably had drugs on me every time I was pulled over in my 20's. But I was taught to always give police the "yes sir, no sir". I've also been cut loose on a couple of potential DUI's.
I'm white, was searched at a dwi checkpoint on two separate occasions. Probably because I was a young white male.
It's a fact that's who they are targeting in baton rouge for that. The protesters said it themselves, the police don't want to go to the ghetto out if their comfort zone. So they prey on college males.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:27 am to 13SaintTiger
More like 50% phonics....
The cool mac daddy's work at it's best.....
The cool mac daddy's work at it's best.....
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:28 am to RogerTheShrubber
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There is no black community, it's a made up political ploy.
Thank you. Been saying this for some time now. Even using the term is as regressive as "black lives matter" because people start subconsciously associating all blacks with the actions of the few. The "black community" is made of far more rational people than traditional or social media would have you believe.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:28 am to SabiDojo
I don't think it's a moving target, I think everyone just misunderstands what it means. Privilege does not equal success. Privilege can range from getting the benefit of the doubt, to not having to worry about others thinking you are a shitty tipper, to not having to worry about breaking stereotypes. Most people on here and other social media think privilege means you are born into a lot of money or something, which is utterly idiotic.0
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:30 am to Hammertime
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People would choose to be a respectable, successful black guy over a POS white guy any day of the week
Hot take there Hammer. You can vehemently bounce around what I stated, it doesn't make it any less true.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:31 am to 13SaintTiger
I don't think anyone thinks that, but it sounds to me what black people are really calling it is Non-Black Privilege.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:31 am to trom83
I haven't read all pages but I'll say this: I'm not going to say whether or not white privilege exists. I will say that I will not feel guilty for something that is out of my control. I didn't choose to have the skin color I do. My family has worked hard to give me the best life possible, and I'm working hard to make something of myself. The opportunities I have were earned, not given.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:33 am to SabiDojo
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I don't think anyone thinks that, but it sounds to me what black people are really calling it is Non-Black Privilege
When someone says "I had to work hard to get to where I am" they are equating privilege to success, no? That's not what privilege is.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:35 am to Hammertime
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It doesn't matter what race you are as long as you are an upstanding citizen. Just look at the response to Jamal in the main thread. Pages and pages of admiration for the kid. Not a bad word was said about him.
I'm not sure if this is a really a counter example to white privilege. I was in that thread and also expressed admiration, but doesn't that show our mindset? Does Jamal get the same accolades if he is white, or would people have slightly higher expectations of him thereby not being as impressed once he spoke?
I don't think that is some kind of subconscious racism or what not, but I think the reason so many were impressed, myself included, is that we expected Jamal to be an idiot. That wasn't an unreasonable expectation given the kind of people you often see interviewed in these situations, but it can still be an example of the benefit of the doubt others get.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:37 am to trom83
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I have a white friend on Facebook who always try to shame white people. She says that all white people have white privilege. She also says that it doesn't even matter how much you struggle in life.
Your friend is dumb
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Is white privilege a real thing and how do you overcome it?
Privileges are good. Why would someone want to overcome a privilege?
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Is it something people say to shame people?
I consider it a compliment. I usually say thank you for them recognizing that I had to bust my arse to make good grades, obey the law, and do all the other things that one has to do to keep from being a tPOS, and when confronted by cops maintain a calm and respect attitude throughout the encounter(s) and comply with their requests. It is really hard work to act like you are supposed to act, and I appreciate it when that hard work is recognized.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:37 am to 13SaintTiger
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When someone says "I had to work hard to get to where I am" they are equating privilege to success, no? That's not what privilege is
It certainly had the implication because white privilege states that you benefit from a system that discriminates against black people. So, black people have to do more to get ahead. So, taken together, it means that, in comparison, a black person probably worked harder to achieve the same, maybe less, than a white person. You are diminishing the white person's earnings/achievements.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:39 am to WeeWee
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I consider it a compliment.
Yea I'm not sure why so many people are offended over this.
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I usually say thank you for them recognizing that I had to bust my arse to make good grades, obey the law
This is what I'm talking about Sabi.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:40 am to Maverick01
It's true to a degree. I am surprised when I hear an articulate black person, and I work in a field with many. It's just from years of seeing the opposite. I was 25 till I met an educated black man. Most work in fields where they will never meet an educated black person. So there's just a huge divide between ignorant racist white people, and uneducated black people
I think the welfare system oppresses the poor. It's like not wanting a 4-5yo to not be spoiled. But you do everything for them and give them everything. A 4yo is not capable of doing much by themselves. They are complacent with this. It's not until a parent can't keep up with there needs that they become independent. But people on welfare stay complacent for life. I think the effect is stronger on blacks because of there narrow spectrum of culture norms.
I think the welfare system oppresses the poor. It's like not wanting a 4-5yo to not be spoiled. But you do everything for them and give them everything. A 4yo is not capable of doing much by themselves. They are complacent with this. It's not until a parent can't keep up with there needs that they become independent. But people on welfare stay complacent for life. I think the effect is stronger on blacks because of there narrow spectrum of culture norms.
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Posted on 7/9/16 at 10:42 am to SabiDojo
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So, black people have to do more to get ahead. So, taken together, it means that, in comparison, a black person probably worked harder to achieve the same, maybe less, than a white person. You are diminishing the white person's earnings/achievements.
It's not about getting ahead, it's about the every day living. I pointed out to you that success does not necessarily equal privedge. I don't diminish anyone's achievements. No matter who you are you have to work hard to become successful (sans those born into money), but once again privedge isn't all about success.
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