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Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:16 pm to Thatguy...
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lots of people use it and keep it a secret to keep it from becoming like the ones in Baton Rouge
It will never be like the ones in BR. It's too far out of the way to make it a viable option for people using 20 or 10.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:20 pm to Artie Rome
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They are two of the best communities we have. You think Lutcher and Erath are more deserving?
That'd be one long arse bridge.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:26 pm to facher08
I've been to the top of one of the spans. The elevator takes you up only so far. Then you have to climb stairs the rest of the way to the top. Once you get there is only a cable to lean on that stretches from one end to the other. Amazing view.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:31 pm to Artie Rome
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Oh well. Things change. Deal with it
right back at you a-hole. especially while you are sitting in traffic. The man should have been compensated based on what HE thought it was worth- not what the state thought.
You want to make infrastructure improvements, pay me. Otherwise move that shite elsewhere.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:36 pm to tigerinthebueche
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The man should have been compensated based on what HE thought it was worth- not what the state thought.
Yeah, I see no problem with that
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:36 pm to facher08
Actually, if they decided to connect I-55 to Gramercy/Wallace and then convert 3127 to I-55 (expand to four lanes all the way to Gross Tete, Meet I-10, then connect to 1-90 to that bridge it would be the loop need for BR and would alleviate traffic with what already exists.
You would take N.O. and Eas bound traffic off of I-10, a truck could go to ST. Rose, West Bank, or I-55 to I-12. It would alleviate truck traffic off I-12 and allow them to connect back with I-10 near gross Tete to go on to 61, 190, or Lafayette.
There is nothing there but Swamp and Cane Fields, a few houses in poor areas of Donaldsonville, possibly Plaquemine, Sorrel, Pigeon that would have to move. It looks to be the cheapest route and most of it is currently existing. If they built Hwy 90 in the swamp they could make this work.
You would take N.O. and Eas bound traffic off of I-10, a truck could go to ST. Rose, West Bank, or I-55 to I-12. It would alleviate truck traffic off I-12 and allow them to connect back with I-10 near gross Tete to go on to 61, 190, or Lafayette.
There is nothing there but Swamp and Cane Fields, a few houses in poor areas of Donaldsonville, possibly Plaquemine, Sorrel, Pigeon that would have to move. It looks to be the cheapest route and most of it is currently existing. If they built Hwy 90 in the swamp they could make this work.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 12:58 pm to Croacka
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Yeah, I see no problem with that
I dont want the owner holding the state hostage with an unreasonable sum, but I don't want the state determining the price either.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:06 pm to tigerinthebueche
I doubt the stage gave the guy "pennies" in the dollar as he stated. My guess is that he overvalued it based on emotion, which I guess is to be expected
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:06 pm to Croacka
Apparently this was the plan:
Posted on 3/8/16 at 1:08 pm to Kingpenm3
Apparently this is the new plan:
Posted on 3/8/16 at 2:14 pm to mikelbr
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That's terrible. We can't get the state to take land from areas that are in desperate need for traffic alleviation but they took your land for this big beautiful bridge that see's maybe 10k cars/trucks a day?
You're over estimating it's use by 3x.
From last year in the Advocate:
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Nearly four years after the bridge connecting West Feliciana and Pointe Coupee parishes opened in May 2011, it has yet to carry the volume of traffic across the Mississippi River projected from the first day motorists were able to use it.
A consulting group that managed the cable-stayed bridge’s construction estimated it would carry 4,000 vehicles a day from the start. A year later, 2,900 vehicles were using it. And the most recent data available puts the traffic volume at 3,400 vehicles.
Some are skeptical that the traffic volume will reach the 6,500 vehicles projected for 2020 and more than triple that to 22,960 by 2040, but economic development officials in Pointe Coupee and West Feliciana say they are optimistic about the future for a bridge that has spurred growth in those parishes.
Among those who view the Audubon Bridge with a more jaundiced eye is West Baton Rouge Parish President Riley “Peewee” Berthelot. He watched the bridge get funded and constructed up the river from his parish even as traffic on La. 1 in West Baton Rouge continued to stack up, along with daily delays on the heavily traveled Mississippi River bridge from Baton Rouge.
“These bridges are built where politicians want them to go, not where they are needed,” Berthelot said.
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The Audubon Bridge’s construction was part of the state’s Transportation Infrastructure Model for Economic Development Program, which was established by Act 16 of the 1989 legislative session. The program is funded with a dedicated 4-cents-per-gallon, voter-approved gas tax.
Mallett said the TIMED Program included 16 specific projects aimed at spurring economic development in Louisiana, not traffic congestion relief.
But relief of traffic congestion is the primary concern of Berthelot, who points to daily traffic woes his parish faces along the I-10 Mississippi River bridge and Intracoastal Waterway bridge on La. 1.
Projects in the $5.2 billion TIMED Program also included widening 536 miles of state highways and widening the Huey P. Long Bridge in Jefferson Parish, Mallett said.
The program included improvements to both the Port of New Orleans and Louis Armstrong International Airport.
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According to DOTD’s 2013 traffic count, the I-10 Mississippi River bridge is flooded with a stream of 102,350 cars each day.
DOTD traffic data also shows that approximately 47,000 vehicles travel each day on La. 1 near the Intracoastal Waterway bridge in West Baton Rouge, but only 24,573 people live in West Baton Rouge Parish, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.
Berthelot and other parish officials are now urging state leaders to consider building a new bridge over the Mississippi River that would likely connect La. 1 and La. 30.
Iberville Parish officials are starting to speak up, too, with their desire to see a new bridge built somewhere in their parish to connect East and West Iberville.
Berthelot, though, believes his parish has a stronger claim for another bridge based on sheer traffic volume.
“This shouldn’t be about who wants a bridge; it needs to be data driven,” Berthelot said. “We don’t need to build another bridge when it’s not going to do what it’s designed to do, and that’s move traffic.”
Posted on 3/8/16 at 2:28 pm to TeddyPadillac
connecting plaquemine to st gabriel would be able to divert traffic away from the I-10 bridge of course.
but also the ferry's would go away, saving the tax payers $$$
if the next bridge was a toll bridge, it would be hugely beneficial for everyone.
but also the ferry's would go away, saving the tax payers $$$
if the next bridge was a toll bridge, it would be hugely beneficial for everyone.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 2:30 pm to tigerinthebueche
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right back at you a-hole. especially while you are sitting in traffic
I'm not. Ever.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 2:48 pm to monsterballads
Build a St.Gabriel-Plaquemine bridge
AND
Ascension-Livingston Parish connector
AND
Ascension-Livingston Parish connector
Posted on 3/8/16 at 3:00 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Among those who view the Audubon Bridge with a more jaundiced eye is West Baton Rouge Parish President Riley “Peewee” Berthelot. He watched the bridge get funded and constructed up the river from his parish even as traffic on La. 1 in West Baton Rouge continued to stack up, along with daily delays on the heavily traveled Mississippi River bridge from Baton Rouge.
“These bridges are built where politicians want them to go, not where they are needed,” Berthelot said.
thats rich for Peewee Berthelot to be calling out politicians about infrastructure development. Look into some of the deals hes suggested during his tenure if you want to see things going "where a politician wants them to go"
In the case of the JJA bridge, much of that location had to do with where it wasn't wanted. Specifically, there was no consensus on where to put it further south. The politicians couldn't agree where to put it.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 3:12 pm to fishfighter
It really is an unbelievable structure.
If you can blow this up and frame it I will buy it and put it in my office.
I have PayPal.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 3:30 pm to tigerinthebueche
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In the case of the JJA bridge, much of that location had to do with where it wasn't wanted. Specifically, there was no consensus on where to put it further south. The politicians couldn't agree where to put it.
That is the definition of how to waste money.
My tv in my living room is a 32" non hd tv. I need a new one desperately. We have saved $2,000 to buy a new one. We can't agree on what to get or where we'd put this new big tv. So we decided to buy a 70" 4k tv and put it in the guest bathroom.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 3:37 pm to monsterballads
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connecting plaquemine to st gabriel would be able to divert traffic away from the I-10 bridge of course.
That would make the lives of people who live in South BR and Plaquemine so much better and diverting local traffic from the I-10 bridge, but itll never happen.
Posted on 3/8/16 at 3:43 pm to TeddyPadillac
Flip the tvs and that's what we have here. They saved up enough to get the 32", but want the 70" 4k to put in the living room. Aince they can't decide where to put the 70" 4k, they bought a 32" for the guest bedroom.
It's cheaper to put a bridge north of Baton Rouge than south because the river is only dredged for ocean going ships from the Huey P. Long bridge (BR) south. The Audubon bridge doesn't have to be high enough for ocean going ships to pass beneath it. That's why it was half the price of any proposed bridge south of Baton rouge.
It's cheaper to put a bridge north of Baton Rouge than south because the river is only dredged for ocean going ships from the Huey P. Long bridge (BR) south. The Audubon bridge doesn't have to be high enough for ocean going ships to pass beneath it. That's why it was half the price of any proposed bridge south of Baton rouge.
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