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Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:08 pm to SaintEB
Now do the lipid theory for heart disease. Thanks.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:43 pm to lsu13lsu
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Diet and Exercise and telling yourself the truth does far more for mental health than drugs.
Truth
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:48 pm to KiwiHead
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:53 pm to SaintEB
Abilify stopped my wife's panic attacks cold and improved her depression enough that she's able to function on a more or less normal level. She had suffered with this over several years and had tried a number of meds without success. The Abilify started working within a week or 10 days. Some medicines work for some people and not for others, and it can be difficult to find what works. But the right medicine or combination of medicines does help a lot of people. Overused? Maybe. But for someone in truly deep depression it can literally be a lifesaver.
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Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:55 pm to crazy4lsu
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Can you describe the science for me? Use paragraphs and no silly links to song lyrics that you randomly highlight for some reason. Just give it to me as dryly as possible in a few paragraphs.
I am obviously referring to attempting to describe/quantify/control/regulate complex, dynamic processes that we don’t completely understand (applies to many things…)
In this instance, what should normal mental health/state be? Is the human condition one where we are supposed to be happy 100% of the time? Reviewing the historical record suggests that humans were exposed to cyclical environments throughout evolution (Times of scarcity mixed with times of abundance ). Cyclical changes in emotional status and mood are likely the evolutionary norm (with subsequent changes reflected in brain neurotransmitters). Only recently has “the science” (for profit) decided that reducing “low levels of chemicals in the brain” to be the underpinnings for mood disorders. Reductionist thinking applied to an issue that needs holistic approaches (lifestyle, sleep hygiene, diet, stress management, etc) as the environment is likely driving the symptoms.
As such, a risk/ benefit assessment needs to be revisited. The authors of the papers that I posted above make a strong case that the side effect profile/harm for many people outweigh any benefit received from using these medications chronically.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 2:56 pm to Gabapentin
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Bullying. Like that severe mental and physical type that you only get in the lovely public schools we have
Guess you missed the STM acid attack and the Cedar Creek sex assault.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:04 pm to SaintEB
I say it all the time. Pills don't give us emotional skills to handle the inevitable knocks of life. It is possible to learn these skills, the lack of which are the root cause of most depression and anxiety issues.
This book can cure depression.
This book can cure depression.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 3:13 pm to SaintEB
People will "almost" always take the path of least effort. If a pill will claim to fix their problems, then gosh darnit, that's perfect.
Nothing worth having comes easy. If you want to feel happy, you need to put in a little effort. Sure, sitting at home and playing on a computer all day will give people the illusion of activity/achievement, but it's no replacement for being out in the world and interacting.
So many people are looking for bliss, but satisfaction is almost always a better feeling.
Nothing worth having comes easy. If you want to feel happy, you need to put in a little effort. Sure, sitting at home and playing on a computer all day will give people the illusion of activity/achievement, but it's no replacement for being out in the world and interacting.
So many people are looking for bliss, but satisfaction is almost always a better feeling.
Posted on 7/22/22 at 4:33 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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I am obviously referring to attempting to describe/quantify/control/regulate complex, dynamic processes that we don’t completely understand (applies to many things…)
What? This is gibberish.
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In this instance, what should normal mental health/state be? Is the human condition one where we are supposed to be happy 100% of the time?
Do you think this is what depression is? The DSM-V categorizations are fairly robust over cultures, ethnicities, languages, etc. There's certainly no suggestion that humans should be 'happy' 100% of the time. If that's your characterization of the current science, which is utterly dishonest, I can't wait to read what other nonsense you posted.
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Reviewing the historical record suggests that humans were exposed to cyclical environments throughout evolution (Times of scarcity mixed with times of abundance ).
Give the source for this. An actual, verifiable source from something reputable, not one of your insane links please. The notion of 'cyclical' environments based on plentitude or scarcity doesn't really match what we know about genetic expression. I can answer in more detail, but I want to know where you got this information, because again, this is nonsensical on its face.
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Cyclical changes in emotional status and mood are likely the evolutionary norm (with subsequent changes reflected in brain neurotransmitters)
Again, this is just insane nonsense you've garbled together.
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. Only recently has “the science” (for profit) decided that reducing “low levels of chemicals in the brain” to be the underpinnings for mood disorders.
That is not an accurate description of why the focus moved to 'chemical imbalance.' There is an identifiable delineation as to why weight was given to this theory.
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The authors of the papers that I posted above make a strong case that the side effect profile/harm for many people outweigh any benefit received from using these medications chronically.
They are quite clear in the case they made, especially in their conclusion, which is explicit.
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