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re: Let’s discuss the French Revolution, please
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:52 pm to grizzlylongcut
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:52 pm to grizzlylongcut
quote:Oh I agree i'm well aware of the timeline i'm just saying that we had our own kind of mob violence it was part of the process the
No where near the level of the French Revolution and wasn’t really until after the Civil War did both of those things happen en masse.
unsettled aspects of the civil war
It was what Lincoln wanted to avoid but maybe it was inevitable
Where we are now is vastly different than France and I think the Constitution and the wisdom of the founding fathers was the most important contributing factor
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:53 pm to snatch
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What he is doing now is straight trash. I listened to first like 3-4 episodes and stopped downloading.
is he still doing the fake mars revolution?
conceptually interesting but without being able to dig into the fact on
my own I find it lest interesting that his history stuff
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:59 pm to grizzlylongcut
A good book is “A Tale of Two Cities” by Charles Dickens. Historical fiction of the times. Some great quotes in there you may have heard before.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 8:59 pm to OWLFAN86
1. Do you not think the French people who were driving the revolution didn't "have God?"
2. WTF do the pyramids have to do with anything? Egyptians had plenty of gods.
3. If you have to bring the American founders into this, they were mostly deists
4. From the point of view of disrupting the status quo and ousting the monarchical power paradigm, the French revolution succeeded
B. ???
C. profit
2. WTF do the pyramids have to do with anything? Egyptians had plenty of gods.
3. If you have to bring the American founders into this, they were mostly deists
4. From the point of view of disrupting the status quo and ousting the monarchical power paradigm, the French revolution succeeded
B. ???
C. profit
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:04 pm to minimal
I meant in the formation of the new government the French Revolution formed a government that failed to include the moral authority of a God.
And if man can decide what is moral or immoral depending upon who is power which is what happened with the French Revolution There is a lack of consistency Stalin was God.. Mao was God.
in France Napoleon was God before him
Maximilien Robespierre, Georges Danton, Marquis de Lafayette, Jean-Paul Marat,, the mob were God
The United States which was people fleeing persecution because of their religious beliefs
That was something that the revolutionaries, down to the soldiers held dear
And yes I agreed that they were Deists but they recognized that singular authority
and the Egyptians pyramids and Freemasons was not inaccurate but was an oversimplification
i'm just having a little bit of fun here
we arent being graded
And if man can decide what is moral or immoral depending upon who is power which is what happened with the French Revolution There is a lack of consistency Stalin was God.. Mao was God.
in France Napoleon was God before him
Maximilien Robespierre, Georges Danton, Marquis de Lafayette, Jean-Paul Marat,, the mob were God
The United States which was people fleeing persecution because of their religious beliefs
That was something that the revolutionaries, down to the soldiers held dear
And yes I agreed that they were Deists but they recognized that singular authority
and the Egyptians pyramids and Freemasons was not inaccurate but was an oversimplification
i'm just having a little bit of fun here
we arent being graded
This post was edited on 7/17/25 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:12 pm to SammyTiger
Duncan’s French Revolution series is awesome… I’ve listened to it through a couple times. Very very detailed.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:21 pm to OWLFAN86
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I meant in the formation of the new government the French Revolution formed a government that failed to include the moral authority of a God.
Your meaning was clear, and fallacious.
quote:
we arent being graded
damnation!
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:30 pm to minimal
quote:nice big word
Your meaning was clear, and fallacious.
quote:where the French are headed for eternity
damnation!
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:40 pm to grizzlylongcut
High prices/shortages of bread helped fuel the French Revolution
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:50 pm to Bullfrog
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That is what happens when you allow the Committee for Public Safety to run the government.
Government bureaucracies always are misnamed and make things worse.
That’s a thing as old as time.
Like the Congo Free State
Yikes. 
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:53 pm to Havoc
Or HOA's
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:54 pm to grizzlylongcut
Posted on 7/17/25 at 9:54 pm to geauxtigers87
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They were pissed and then did something about it. Unlike today
Well, hopefully it’s turning around. $B in garbage spending about to be cut. Of course all Dems voted against it.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:14 pm to Antonio Moss
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Maybe. But the American Revolution is an anomaly in that it is a rare circumstance where people conquered an oppressing power and then immediately relinquished the political power that came with the victory.
In almost every other circumstance, the people conquering the oppressing power becomes more oppressive than the overthrown regime.
Modern revisionists and even modern regular people can't wrap their heads around what an exception George Washington was to every accepted norm on the planet at the time.
When King George heard he planned to relinquish the power and position he gained in leading the Revolutionary Army, he declared if Washington did indeed step down, he would be "the greatest man in the world". He meant it. The entire world and half the colonies thought Washington would declare himself monarch. Compare and contrast him to every other revolutionary leader of modern times.
As for the French, they failed to realize that ideological purity is unobtainable. The modern equivalent is the woke mob and virtue signaling. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler and every single socialist/communist have made the same intentional mistake of pursuing this warped concept of ideological purity. Large scale murder is always the result.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:17 pm to OWLFAN86
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Or HOA's
I mean, if we’re just talking deceitful names it is a Home Owners Association.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:20 pm to Havoc
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I mean, if we’re just talking deceitful names it is a Home Owners Association.
Why are women allowed ?
it's not the Home Cleaners Association
I will say that the French liberty had a titty hanging out
Posted on 7/17/25 at 10:21 pm to Havoc
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quote:
They were pissed and then did something about it. Unlike today
Well, hopefully it’s turning around. $B in garbage spending about to be cut. Of course all Dems voted against it.
We can all piss and moan about taxes, but unlike pre-revolutionary France, the top 10% of earners here pay the vast majority of the taxes. The bottom 30-40% pay virtually none to the Feds in net tax.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:19 pm to OWLFAN86
Thermidorian Reaction FTW
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:24 pm to grizzlylongcut
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I guess the French (and Russian for that matter) Revolution is what happens when the mob takes over would be the easiest way to put it?
The Russian Revolution was the opposite. A small group, the Bolsheviks, hijacked a broader movement.
Posted on 7/17/25 at 11:29 pm to grizzlylongcut
Brah, there’s not really a 2 minute refresher on the French Revolution or the English (or the American) Civil War or the Russian Revolution, etc…..
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.
Educate yourself.
There’s plenty of podcasts available to do so.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life.
Educate yourself.
There’s plenty of podcasts available to do so.
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