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Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:33 am to
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:33 am to
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but what was going on when the LSU student died, that ultimately led to this nonsense?
certainly not tailgating or a party...... in fact most of the arrests and citations written on game day are
1. not for students
2. not for greeks - when they are students.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:34 am to
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Are fraternities any good for anything other than organized drinking?


quote:

They raise hundreds of thousands of dollars each year for various charities and causes.


Technically...Millions.

Last year fraternities raised over $3 Million through the Children's Miracle Network Marathon Dance Program, alone.

LINK
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
90217 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:34 am to
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but what was going on when the LSU student died, that ultimately led to this nonsense?

not sure which one we're referring to here honestly, but I was in a big frat during a sort of boom time for Greeks while at LSU, have yet to hear about any frat guy ever having to be coerced to drink
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 9:42 am
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34922 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:35 am to
So....... hazing? Initiation?

Posted by Cap Crunch
Fire Alleva
Member since Dec 2010
54189 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:35 am to
Oh, I don't disagree with that. I'm talking more about the same "at least I didn't pay for my friends" comments.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15772 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:36 am to
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Hazing has been in the news for a longggggg time.. liability is a motherfricker.. you can thank all the frivolous lawsuits for the overreacting by the admin


Look, I’m not saying it’s right, or that the punishment is fair, but like I said, at some point they’re going to have to accept the fact that they’re the ones who got the ball rolling..

if hazing weren’t an issue, would we be where we are today?


If retards didn't go overboard, it would be just fine. I was once a pledge and by hazing standards, I was hazed, but no one went to the extreme of making anyone take 20 shots of 190 proof liquor.

LSU has been in the news a lot before the season started from everything from beating GFs, to robbing pawn shops to sexual assault so is the entire team thugs and criminals?

Should those involved in extreme hazing, especially to the point of death, be punished? Absolutely, but you don't punish the other 5,000 Greek students because of the action of 4?
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:37 am to
Just have the tailgates anyway. If they ask if this is a “fraternity tailgate” just say “no we are just a big group of friends”
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34922 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:37 am to
Yea, I don’t get into that whole conversation. Frats weren’t for me, but I don’t see the harm in them at all unless they do some irrational, stupid shite.. the whole shirt and tie thing is kind of weird to me, but as they say, different strokes for different folks
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34922 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:40 am to
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If retards didn't go overboard, it would be just fine


The first line of your post kind of sums up my whole point

Most people can admit, frats have a reputation for going partying and going overboard. The student passing away recently brought everything to a head, now the admin, much to the chagrin of the students, is trying to do what they can to curb the partying of fraternities. They have to, legally go avoid huge liability lawsuits.

If there was another incident like the one LSU just had, the backlash towards the admin would be 15 times worse than it is for stupid simple things like piped in music and the other petty shite the rant likes to bitch about..... how can people not see this?


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LSU has been in the news a lot before the season started from everything from beating GFs, to robbing pawn shops to sexual assault so is the entire team thugs and criminals?


Is the university going to get sued into oblivion if Grant Delpit goes home and smacks up his ol lady?

There’s your answer
This post was edited on 10/3/18 at 9:43 am
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
4018 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:42 am to
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You frickers killed 2 pledges in 20 years


Go frick yourself
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34922 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:43 am to
You don’t talk to her like that!!
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15772 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:45 am to
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If there was another incident like the one LSU just had, the backlash towards the admin would be 15 times worse than it is for stupid simple things like piped in music and the other petty shite the rant likes to bitch about..... how can people not see this?


I get the liability thing, I do. I also remember my time in the Greek system and how pissed I would be if a fraternity in which I had no part, did not know a single member of, etc ruined what is a good time while I was in school.

One solution could be to make each fraternity "buy" their own house (similar to DKE back in the day). If something happens at the house, like in the Gruver case, I don't believe the liability would then fall on LSU since it wouldn't be their property.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37888 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:47 am to
"we" didn't kill anyone. those two killed themselves. Unless someone forced the liquor down Gruver's throat, his death is on him.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15772 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:48 am to
On a separate note, I remember having to bring an old fraternity brother to the hospital to get his stomach pumped after LSU lost to Kentucky in 2007. Why? Him and another guy thought it would be a brilliant idea to chug a handle of Jager after LSU lost. Had he died, there is nothing LSU could have done to prevent that besides doing nightly inspections for alcohol at each house, in each room.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19951 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:50 am to
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One solution could be to make each fraternity "buy" their own house (similar to DKE back in the day). If something happens at the house, like in the Gruver case, I don't believe the liability would then fall on LSU since it wouldn't be their property.


The only way LSU has control over the fraternity system is because they own the houses. This is why they can’t frick with DKE no matter what they pull. LSU would NEVER allow the fraternities to own that property.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:52 am to
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If there are any young people applying to college that are reading this right now, for the love of god, don’t go to LSU. Go to UGA or something. LSU admin has become a behemoth of pc corporate culture and red tape. It’s just not worth it anymore.

This is what the administration has sown. I advise young people to stay away from LSU and go to a university that actually enjoys having college students on campus. Basically they should let LSU follow Mizzou's lead, but stay far, far away. Go to a college that will be a fun and rewarding experience.

If they're already miserable count, then I tell them LSU is a great place for them to be.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37888 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:53 am to
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the whole shirt and tie thing is kind of weird to me, but as they say, different strokes for different folks


I feel the same way about people who paint themselves are dress their little girls in cheer leader uniforms.
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15772 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:54 am to
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The only way LSU has control over the fraternity system is because they own the houses. This is why they can’t frick with DKE no matter what they pull. LSU would NEVER allow the fraternities to own that property.



I know a little over 10 years ago my old fraternity was looking to buy the house outright. I don't know if they ever did but it was definitely in the works when I was there.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104646 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:55 am to
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One solution could be to make each fraternity "buy" their own house (similar to DKE back in the day). If something happens at the house, like in the Gruver case, I don't believe the liability would then fall on LSU since it wouldn't be their property.


I am not sure of all the legal ins and outs but chapters "own" their houses now, through a house corporation which takes in dues from the active chapter, pays the note, and handles things like major repairs and remodeling. The university owns the property on which the house sits. The university affiliation is the only reason chapters can find mortgage lenders and insurers. If they went totally independent it would be cost prohibitive, if they could find one at all.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104646 posts
Posted on 10/3/18 at 9:56 am to
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The only way LSU has control over the fraternity system is because they own the houses. This is why they can’t frick with DKE no matter what they pull. LSU would NEVER allow the fraternities to own that property.


DKE has been shut down more than once.
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