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Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:22 am to Mike da Tigah
A department with a different name and parsing out public health and law enforcement. Below is the proposed city ordinance change. The first quote box is what will be struck from the ordinance, the second would be the replacement text
Council minutes
Council minutes
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§ 7.3. Police
(a) Police department. The Mayor has complete power over the establishment, maintenance, and command
of the police department. The Mayor may make all rules and regulations and may promulgate and enforce
general and special orders necessary to operating the police department. Except where the law vests an
appointment in the department itself, the Mayor appoints and may discipline or discharge any employee in
the department (subject to the Civil Service Commission's rules, in the case of an employee in the classified
service).
(1) Police chief.
(A) Appointment. The Mayor nominates and the City Council appoints a police chief under section 8.4(b).
(B) Term. The chief's term is three years.
(C) Civil service. The chief serves in the unclassified service, but with the same employee benefits (except as to
hiring and removal) as an officer in the classified service. If a chief is appointed from the classified service, then
he or she is treated as taking a leave of absence while serving as chief, after which he or she is entitled to return
to his or her permanent grade in the classified service. If no vacancy is available in that grade, then the least
senior employee so classified returns to his or her grade before being so classified.
(D) Public health. The chief must execute the City Council's orders relating to the preservation of health.
(2) Police officers. Each peace officer appointed in the police department must be licensed as required by law.
Each such licensed officer may exercise any lawful power that a peace officer enjoys at common law or by
general or special law, and may execute a warrant anywhere in the county.
(b) Temporary police. The Mayor may, in case of riot or other emergency, appoint any necessary temporary
police officer for up to one week. Each such officer must be a licensed peace officer.
(c) Funding. The City Council must fund a police force of at least 0.0017 employees per resident, and provide
for those employees' compensation, for which purpose it may tax the taxable property in the City up to 0.3
percent of its value annually. This tax is in addition to any other tax, and not subject to the maximum set under
section 9.3(a)(4).
quote:
(a) Department of Community Safety and Violence Prevention. The City Council must establish, maintain,
adequately fund, and consistently engage the public about a department of community safety and violence
prevention, which will have responsibility for public safety services prioritizing a holistic, public health-oriented
approach.
(1) Director of Community Safety and Violence Prevention Department. The Mayor nominates and the City
Council appoints a director of the department of community safety and violence prevention under section
8.4(b). Individuals eligible to be appointed as director will have non-law enforcement experience in community
safety services, including but not limited to public health and/or restorative justice approaches.
(b) Division of Law Enforcement Services. The Council may maintain a division of law enforcement services,
composed of licensed peace officers, subject to the supervision of the department of community safety and
violence prevention.
(1) Director of Law Enforcement Services Division. The director of the department of community safety and
violence prevention shall appoint the director of the division of law enforcement services, subject to
confirmation by official act of the City Council and Mayor.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 11:24 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:25 am to lsucoonass
quote:They definitely need more Social Workers, minimal paid and inexperienced young girls need to be brought in to help with the internal affairs, mental health screenings, alcoholism, drug addicts, homeless.
It’s one thing to disband and reform which many need to do but to disband and not have law enforcement is dumb. At this point I’m sure every major police force in the urban areas needs restructuring.
I’d say 25% of an officer’s daily job should be some form of training whether is learning proper restraint, hostage situations, even internal affairs, etc. an officer of the law should never become complacent with their job. Mental health screenings will be more frequently needed. urban areas need to recruit more minorities to represent their areas of the city. It’ll require more funding but if the resources are allocated properly it can be done.
This is more then just a job but a calling and an honor to protect and serve. Somewhere along the way this has been forgotten
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:26 am to lsucoonass
LoL. Yep. Navy SEALs and local police are completely the same thing.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:27 am to ccomeaux
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The MPD should help the public visualize what this would look like with a 14 day strike.
Montreal had a police strike in 1969:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murray-Hill_riot
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:28 am to Mike da Tigah
letting criminals have a vote on whether to have police dept or not
what could EVER go wrong
at this point i hope the entire state burns to the ground in such epic fashion that even the biggest lying liberal scum must admit it was a bad idea
what could EVER go wrong
at this point i hope the entire state burns to the ground in such epic fashion that even the biggest lying liberal scum must admit it was a bad idea
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 11:29 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:28 am to Mike da Tigah
I hope that the murder rate goes up 1000% and that whole state gets burned down to the ground. fricking idiots.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:31 am to Mike da Tigah
Lisa Bender, the City Council president, should never be allowed to have any armed security of any kind because being able to afford it whether by tax payer money or your own, it “comes from a place of privilege.”
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:32 am to Centinel
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Already very, very blue.
As is Lincoln and Omaha, but it's more of a moderate blue. Their offspring are socialists, and these numbnuts fleeing Minneapolis will just bolster their numbers to flip a state like Nebraska thats very very rural outside of those two towns.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:32 am to Mike da Tigah
I hope all the police leave for jobs in other cities before the vote happens, and they can successfully enact self policing.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:34 am to Mike da Tigah
This piece of legislation should have a clause attached stating NO TAXPAYER FUNDS are to be used for security for any Minneapolis City Official.
Let's see these fricks put their money where their mouth is, or if they're "protection for me, not for thee" like we all know they are.
Let's see these fricks put their money where their mouth is, or if they're "protection for me, not for thee" like we all know they are.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:37 am to OMLandshark
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18.3% of homes are on the market in Minneapolis right now. That’s how bad it is.
Dont worry the Lutheran Church will help import some new homeowners from Somalia.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:39 am to Montezuma
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b) Division of Law Enforcement Services. The Council may maintain a division of law enforcement services,
composed of licensed peace officers, subject to the supervision of the department of community safety and
violence prevention.
(1) Director of Law Enforcement Services Division. The director of the department of community safety and
violence prevention shall appoint the director of the division of law enforcement services, subject to
confirmation by official act of the City Council and Mayor.
Sounds like police reform dressed up as complete abolishment.
Of course this thread is full of people who didn’t read this part though.
It’s renaming the police department and creating more/different oversight. It’s not as bad as people are making it sound.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 11:40 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:45 am to Mike da Tigah
I feel sorry for the Sheriff. No one seems to understand that all this does is put the monkey on their back. Which makes this the dumbest thing ever.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:47 am to BregmansWheelbarrow
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Minneapolis will be Mogadishu inside a month.
Will be? Their chosen representative is a Somali born in Mogadishu who hates America.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 11:49 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:48 am to TH03
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It’s renaming the police department and creating more/different oversight. It’s not as bad as people are making it sound.
quote:
Fox 9 reported that the proposal would remove minimum officer requirements in the city and replaces the department with the Department of Community Safety and Violence Prevention. It would be led by a non-law enforcement figure, the Associated Press reported. Reports said that there has been an increase in gun violence in some sections of the city in recent weeks.
Yeah.
for our next trick, we’ll begin to commission accountants to design our bridges, and our engineers to do your taxes. Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:50 am to Mike da Tigah
No. There’s that director then there’s a director of law enforcement. The “led by a non law enforcement figure” part does not apply to the director of law enforcement role which sounds just like the chief of police.
The non law enforcement director is who appoints the director of law enforcement pending mayoral approval. It basically just adds a layer of oversight/bureaucracy.
The non law enforcement director is who appoints the director of law enforcement pending mayoral approval. It basically just adds a layer of oversight/bureaucracy.
This post was edited on 6/29/20 at 11:52 am
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:58 am to Mike da Tigah
Do it. I Triple Dog Dare you.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 11:59 am to TH03
This isn't going to turn out well for the city. I expect that a lot of businesses will move out. Also agree that no taxpayer funds should be used for protection for some of these people.
Posted on 6/29/20 at 12:03 pm to TH03
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No. There’s that director then there’s a director of law enforcement. The “led by a non law enforcement figure” part does not apply to the director of law enforcement role which sounds just like the chief of police.
The non law enforcement director is who appoints the director of law enforcement pending mayoral approval. It basically just adds a layer of oversight/bureaucracy.
This is complete and utter nonsense. You know that right?
If that’s the way it turns out it’s nothing more than politicians trying to distance themselves from their own responsibilities (shocker) by creating a bigger cluster than it already is.
The mayor is over the police department. Creating a position to act as a go between from the mayor to the chief is creating a fall guy everyone can point to anytime something goes wrong.
‘Not my fault “. Well, it’s not my fault”. ‘It’s the go between’ s fault”. ‘Yeah, you’re fired.”
It’s hard being a grown up.
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