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Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:19 am to
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6019 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:19 am to
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There’s too many trash OOC games.


There are 3 of those a year at most

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the only real good games to tailgate for this season in BR were Ole Miss, Uga, and Bama.


Miss St was ranked when they came here and the game was at night in Oct. Weather was kind of nasty but I'm sorry if that wasn't good enough for you

I'd consider every SEC game a good tailgate plus in 2020 you will have 4 SEC games plus UT at home
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:32 am to
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Texas is great, but no way I'm retiring here unless they fix the property taxes. Forget paying $10,000+ a year in property taxes against no benefit of the lack of income tax


This. It drives me nuts when people talk about no state income tax in Texas like they build all that infrastructure and great schools with magical money that leprechauns leave under legislators pillows.

When I lived in Austin I had a friend who lived in Round Rock and he had $160,000 tract house.

He paid $6,000 a year in property tax. His state income tax in Louisiana would have been $1,000 or less.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:33 am to
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The OT is such drama queens


That ain’t no shite
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:34 am to
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Miss St was ranked when they came here and the game was at night in Oct. Weather was kind of nasty but I'm sorry if that wasn't good enough for you


Clearly my opinion has offended your way of life. I’ve done every game for years now and it’s obvious that there’s only two maybe three games per season that people really come out for. There’s always the regulars for any game. The excitement isn’t there for Arkansas and random SEC games.
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
12818 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:35 am to
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It's met with a forced smile, and you can sense the judgment for "leaving


I doubt they cared
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69806 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:43 am to
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He paid $6,000 a year in property tax. His state income tax in Louisiana would have been $1,000 or less.


The problem isn't that people pay more in taxes in Louisiana (they typically don't), it's that they get nothing to show for their taxes in Louisiana. People aren't necessarily opposed to paying higher taxes when they can see the benefit of improved services. In Louisiana, most of the money gets stolen, so there is zero confidence that increased taxes will improve roads, schools, crime, drainage, etc.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 8:44 am
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53351 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 8:45 am to
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The problem isn't that people pay more in taxes in Louisiana (they typically don't), it's that they get nothing to show for their taxes in Louisiana.

Louisiana was a pretty low tax state before JBE. Now we are 27th i think.
Posted by MaHittaMaHitta
Member since May 2014
3197 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:00 am to
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My man, the only thing left in Louisiana is family, food, and football. And that's not enough. I miss it, but life is better in Texas.


1000% agree. I enjoy going back during holidays to see the fam and party in Nola, but there is no way I'm raising children in that city compared to the opportunities here.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43362 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:09 am to
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The problem isn't that people pay more in taxes in Louisiana (they typically don't), it's that they get nothing to show for their taxes in Louisiana. People aren't necessarily opposed to paying higher taxes when they can see the benefit of improved services. In Louisiana, most of the money gets stolen, so there is zero confidence that increased taxes will improve roads, schools, crime, drainage, etc.



When I fly my mom into DFW we take the tollways in and around DFW and she continually asks how in the hell are we able to afford all this.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
101510 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:26 am to
States like Louisiana and MS just don’t have the diverse economies that attract good jobs and don’t have the tax base to lead to good public amenities.

If you aren’t born into a farm type family with land or want to work in O&G or be a personal injury attorney there isn’t much else here for a skilled or intelligent person
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34214 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:27 am to
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This. It drives me nuts when people talk about no state income tax in Texas like they build all that infrastructure and great schools with magical money that leprechauns leave under legislators pillows.

When I lived in Austin I had a friend who lived in Round Rock and he had $160,000 tract house.

He paid $6,000 a year in property tax. His state income tax in Louisiana would have been $1,000 or less.


The property taxes on a 160,000 tract home with homestead exemption in Round Rock, Williamson County is $3,472.

If your friend lived in Zachary, LA with the same $160K house his property taxes would be $858

I'm assuming your friend makes $40K per year for the 1,000 in state income tax.


Texas (40K income)
NET PAY USD 33,771
AVG TAX 15.6%
Rank #1

Louisiana (40K income)

Louisiana
NET PAY USD 32,727
AVG TAX 18.2%
Rank #15

Thats $1,044 state income tax difference.

$1,044 paying state income tax + $858 in property tax in Zachary, LA = $1,902

Yes, in TX paying $3,472 is higher than $1,902. Difference of $1,570.

How much does your friend buy in groceries a year vs. Louisiana? No tax on groceries in TX. Has he compared car insurance rates between both states?

One simple ratio known as the “tax burden” helps cut through the confusion. Unlike tax rates, which vary widely based on an individual’s circumstances, tax burden measures the proportion of total personal income that residents pay toward state and local taxes. And it isn’t uniform across the U.S., either.

To determine the residents with the biggest tax burdens, WalletHub compared the 50 states across the three tax types of state tax burdens — property taxes, individual income taxes and sales and excise taxes — as a share of total personal income in the state. Read on for our findings, commentary from a panel of tax experts and a full description of our methodology.


For 2018
NY #1
LA #27
TX #33








Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103808 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:29 am to
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When I fly my mom into DFW we take the tollways in and around DFW and she continually asks how in the hell are we able to afford all this.


Tolls probably help.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43362 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:32 am to
All = Roads, new high rises, new office parks etc.

Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10923 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:17 pm to
Taking the whole tribe cross country
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:35 pm to
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I don’t know if anybody else has noticed this, but I get the feeling that a lot of people are moving out of Louisiana and relocating to other states.




Not where I live(Youngsville). Seems it's a lot of people from other states that keep moving here.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34214 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:42 pm to
Seldom Seen, was looking at the population numbers for Youngsville, LA. Looks like a large spike from 2009 to 2010 adding nearly 4,000 residents. Have been adding residents since then which is not uncommon with having children and adults living longer nowadays, but, at a smaller rate. Added 470 people from 2016 to 2017. What caused the large spike in 2009?
Posted by OKTGR580
Baton Rouge to Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2018
6318 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 12:58 pm to
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States like Louisiana and MS just don’t have the diverse economies that attract good jobs and don’t have the tax base to lead to good public amenities. If you aren’t born into a farm type family with land or want to work in O&G or be a personal injury attorney there isn’t much else here for a skilled or intelligent person


This is very true. People in La try to act like Mississippi is so below them when in reality, they are pretty much neck and neck in this regard. Very similar. At least in MS, the cost of living is a lot lower and the government has their shite together.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34214 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 1:06 pm to
Mississippi has improved in the education rankings too. I believe New Mexico is the worst with Louisiana next then several states before you get to Mississippi. For a while it was a battle who would come in last.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 3:58 pm to
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The problem isn't that people pay more in taxes in Louisiana (they typically don't), it's that they get nothing to show for their taxes in Louisiana. People aren't necessarily opposed to paying higher taxes when they can see the benefit of improved services. In Louisiana, most of the money gets stolen, so there is zero confidence that increased taxes will improve roads, schools, crime, drainage, etc


Now THIS I can agree with.

Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9934 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 4:12 pm to
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Seldom Seen, was looking at the population numbers for Youngsville, LA. Looks like a large spike from 2009 to 2010 adding nearly 4,000 residents. Have been adding residents since then which is not uncommon with having children and adults living longer nowadays, but, at a smaller rate. Added 470 people from 2016 to 2017. What caused the large spike in 2009?


Oilfield/ Lafayette economy was booming until late 2014ish
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