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Posted on 1/30/26 at 6:40 am to jizzle6609
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love this one.
I really despise Canada at this point. If we decided to take them over by force I’d pay more taxes willingly at this point
Way too early to be drunk and naive about American repercussion/disruption.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 6:40 am to H2O Tiger
Instead of crying like a little bitch, look at why Canada hasn't been certifying Gulfstream jets for years...
Posted on 1/30/26 at 6:45 am to Spaceman Spiff
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look at why Canada hasn't been certifying Gulfstream jets for years...
How many years and on which models are you implying?
Posted on 1/30/26 at 6:48 am to cypresstiger
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Some of that US tariff $ will go into your tax refund,
Yes and No. Tariffs go into the general fund and are not earmarked for anything in particular. Anyone who says that we are going to use the tariffs to directly fund any particular thing does not know what they are talking about.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:14 am to jizzle6609
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really despise Canada at this point.
Why?
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:31 am to crazyLSUstudent
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So he’s affectively shutting down regional air traffic? That’s seems bad
Or, he is forcing Canada to start certifying US made Gulfstream jets and everyone is happy
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:33 am to Fun Bunch
Good thing the CRJ's are now a Mitsubishi owned aircraft. Trump really didn't think this one out past two or three seconds.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:35 am to crazyLSUstudent
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So he’s affectively shutting down regional air traffic? That’s seems bad
Short term pain for long term gain.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:39 am to burdman
Nm
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 7:50 am
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:40 am to H2O Tiger
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Likewise, but airlines can't snap their fingers and swap those 600+ CRJs to ERJs.
But Canada can snap their fingers and start certifying Gulf Stream jets, which is the desired and likely outcome
Why are so many people upset about our response, but not to the original action taken by Canada Why are they not certifying Gulf Streams in the first place?
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:44 am to burdman
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Short term pain for long term gain.
I’m here for whatever you need to tell yourself to justify chaos
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:44 am to H2O Tiger
Does that mean all Delta flights out of BTR are downed?
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:46 am to ultratiger89
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This is the point. Buy American, don’t pay the tariff.
It’s so simple. Does it make you wonder why this country ever started trading with other countries to begin with?
Cheaper goods? More economic growth and a higher standard of living for everyone? Shared interest with adversaries maintains global order and prevents war?
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:52 am to MyRockstarComplex
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Does that mean all Delta flights out of BTR are downed?
Hasn't gone into effect. But to your question
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There are 5,425 Canadian-built aircraft – including regional jets, larger narrowbody jets, business jets and helicopters – currently in service in the USA. That includes 58 Airbus A220s and hundreds of Bombardier CRJ900s and CRJ700s operated by SkyWest Airlines, Endeavor Air, PSA Airlines, Flexjet, GoJet Airlines and Delta Connection.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:55 am to crazyLSUstudent
quote:they're a cult.
I’m here for whatever you need to tell yourself to justify chaos
Posted on 1/30/26 at 7:58 am to victoire sécurisé
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Cheaper goods? More economic growth and a higher standard of living for everyone? Shared interest with adversaries maintains global order and prevents war?
Ah well when you put it that way, I guess we should just roll over and continue getting fricked in the arse
Posted on 1/30/26 at 8:21 am to MyRockstarComplex
There is a big difference between decertifying the Global Express (BD-700 type) family, which is very different than the CRJs that airlines fly. If he really is decertifying the CL-65 type (CRJ family), to lobby for Gulfstream's products then he a fricking moron with, in this case, a warped sense of cost versus benefit for the American public.
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 8:30 am to TT9
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they're a cult.
Correct. Sad to watch the old folk around me fall into this 1 after 1.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 8:52 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Instead of crying like a little bitch, look at why Canada hasn't been certifying Gulfstream jets for years...
The Bombardier Global 8000 just got certified in November by Transport Canada. In accordance w/ an agreement between the FAA, Transport Canada, European union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) & Brazil’s safety authority (ANAC) to honor each other’s Technical Standard Order (TSO) certifications, the other agencies each followed suit within 2 months. So, the Canadian-made Global has its certification in each of these markets.
The Gulfstream G700/800 was issued a “temporary certification” by the FAA in 2024. It was temporary because during design & initial production, the FAA introduced a new standard for testing the fuel system icing prevention which hadn’t existed before. Previous approval was done via analysis, but for this approval the FAA decided it would need full flight testing. Gulfstream would have to devise a process, get it approved & then build a rig, which was estimated to take two years. Gulfstream asked for 3 just in case, arguing the G700/800 fuel system was not radically different than the G550 & that this was a surprise requirement.
If the FAA didn’t agree, the jet was in limbo. Not sure how Gulfstream would handle it. Idle the line & lay off employees? I don’t know. But, the FAA agreed in March 2024. The EASA followed in May. Brazil in 2025.
These deals to honor each other’s TSO certifications are “Reciprocal Acceptance”. They streamline getting certification in each market, which is extremely time consuming & expensive.
Canada is the only partner that did not honor the reciprocal agreement. Maybe they will eventually, but they are very late to the party.
As I mentioned, the technical issue is preventing ice from forming in the fuel tanks. It’s cold at altitude. Jets use fuel additives to help prevent icing, and some even heat the fuel. It’s a common trick.
Both Bombardier & Gulfstream heat the fuel pretty similarly. Some of the fuel bound for the engine gets diverted (intentionally) & flows over the outside of the oil system. That cools the oil & warms the fuel in a “heat exchange”. The now warm fuel gets pumped back into the fuel tank. It’s not a massive amount, but it’s enough to keep the fuel from freezing (which it wouldn’t do in most situations even if this system didn’t exist, but might in some). There are minor differences, but it’s not a major thing & Gulfstream has never had an issue with it.
Anyway, when it comes to big, class-leading business jets, the two big hitters are Bombardier & Gulfstream. Plenty of others make business jets, but not like these. It’s like Ferrari & Lamborghini. These are the top of the line, serious machines.
So, it seems like the question is why hasn’t Canada honored the reciprocal agreement when the U.S. & other partners do, at least from what I can tell. Gulfstream can’t deliver jets to the Canadian market until they do, while Bombardier can deliver to the U.S.
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