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re: Should I leave Ukraine?
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:22 am to TheFonz
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:22 am to TheFonz
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I don't know if his father is in the picture,
Her son's father is in Kiev. He was never real keen on having a family and was upset when my wife got pregnant. He left when his son was young. He didn't pay child support or have a lot to do with him. He has however come around the last few years and has become more of a father. He buys him gifts and spends time with him. I guess he is growing up.
I know my step son talks to him in Kiev and he has just been in his apartment. He talks macho, but he hasn't picked up a rifle.
Ukrainian law will not let their children leave the country without the fathers permission. To date, he has not allowed his son to come to America, not even to visit. He doesn't support his son or allow his son to live with him, but he can prevent his son from leaving.....strange. Faced with the fact that his son could be enlisted, he would hopefully let his son come here. If his son comes as a refugee, he might not be able to stop him anyway. I will get an immigration lawyer if need be.
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:33 am to Go Cat Go
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money is just the right substance to grease certain wheels.
I probably won't be able to wire money. I would rather pay a taxi driver $300, then for her to get on the train, as I am told is happening in Kiev. I believe her parents have a good amount of cash and if they can find a ATM she should be good.
Thanks for the websites.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:37 am to N2daWild
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was able to speak with my wife this morning
What city is she in?
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:14 am to N2daWild
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I would rather pay a taxi driver $300
Yeesh... be wary of this plan. There will be plenty of people out there just waiting to cash in on desperate people. In a perfect world this sounds good, but she could very well end up on the side of the road penniless or worse.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:37 am to N2daWild
Trying to keep track geographically, where are her parents located? I take it your wife and kids left a more popluated area of Lysychansk for her parents more rural. Yet this is still close enough to work/groceries? You mentioned chickens so a farm? Is it more rural making it safer?
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:46 am to AutoYes_Clown
Parents are in Lisichansk. 40 minute walk from the apartment. They would consider it a village. The houses there have about a fourth of an acre. Not big, but everyone has fruit and nut trees. Most have a vegetable garden. Some have small farm animals like her parents and some will have a milk cow, one has a pig farm. They live somewhat similar to how our grandparents grew up.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:56 am to N2daWild
Buy kidnapping insurance for both of them ASAP and then call one of the private security companies, like ihometiger’s old outfit, to go in and extract them safely out.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:20 pm to MrLSU
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:22 pm to N2daWild
I just noticed the clothes line in the window. They don't have dryers there.
I can see why my wife's ears were ringing when she went to the groceries.
She told me she can still hear the bombings at her parents.
I can see why my wife's ears were ringing when she went to the groceries.
She told me she can still hear the bombings at her parents.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 7:41 am to N2daWild
UPDATE The wife said they were told to expect heavy bombing tonight in Lisichansk. They told them to turn out lights, so I assume it will be aerial bombing.
If and when she can leave she will but she wants to bring her son. I need to figure out how to get him here. Visa, refugee, Mexican border lol.
If and when she can leave she will but she wants to bring her son. I need to figure out how to get him here. Visa, refugee, Mexican border lol.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 7:47 am to N2daWild
I would recommend that you call your local congressman to grease those wheels. They are usually pretty helpful when it comes to cutting through bureaucratic red tape. If your stepson can even just get to the US as a tourist or a visitor, you can worry about more long-term solutions at that time. They aren’t going to deport a 15-year-old child back to a war-torn country. He just has to get here.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 9:50 am to N2daWild
I’ve followed this since it started, and I’m not here to throw any hate your way. BUT, your wife needs to completely forget about IFV! That would be on my list of needs that I just balled up and threw away the second I heard a Russian bomb go off in my surrounding area! Try and help her realize that IFV does not mean anything if she’s dead! Again I’m not here to say hurtful things!
Posted on 3/5/22 at 9:54 am to N2daWild
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bring her son.
At this point, would they really question it? She can say she hasn’t been able to communicate with his father since the start of the invasion and she just wants to get the boy to safety. If she can’t get him to Poland or Romania because they won’t let him leave Ukraine, at least try to get to Lviv or ad close to the border as she can. Just make sure she knows to bring birth certificates and other pertinent information with her.
This post was edited on 3/5/22 at 9:57 am
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:04 am to shallowminded
The way things are shaping up in Kiev are not good. That city is going to be destroyed if this continues. She is giving up the IVF idea for now. We can go back later in the year if things calm down
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:06 am to TheFonz
Ukrainians need a visa to enter the states. I will get some things in place.
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:31 am to shallowminded
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your wife needs to completely forget about IFV!
Yes ! And IVF too !!
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:48 am to BK Lounge
Sorry, IVF, my bad!
Posted on 3/5/22 at 10:53 am to N2daWild
Seems like getting them to the States will be the easy part. I'd focus on getting them out of there first. Take it one step at a time.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 1:06 pm to Buck_Rogers
UPDATE: Everyone is okay but they have had a couple of friends and the hospital where my wife use to work have been bombed.
One of her friends told her that the balcony, windows and furniture have been destroyed by a bomb. The bomb also busted the gas line and they were thankful the window was busted to let the gas out. They slept in the stairwell that night. It is about 28 degrees in her city. The hospital just had some windows blown out.
I have hit a few roadblocks with getting her son to the states. Applying for a normal visa would take two years. It took me a year and a half to get my wife here on a 90 day fiance' visa, so no surprise. Also the US is not taking tourist visas from the Ukraine right now. I am hoping the US will start accepting refugees, like they did for Afghanistan.
If the US accepts refugees. Ukrainians can fill out a form online to request what is called "parole". It takes about 3 days to get a response. Once they have parole the airlines can then accept them for flights to the US. Once in the US they will get finger printed. This would not only open the door for my step son but also anyone else I know to get out.
As of now it is too dangerous to flee. They are better off and safer in their homes. If they do open up safe corridors and my family can get out, I will rent an apartment somewhere in Europe and wait to see if America opens the door for refugees. If they don't, we will just stay in Europe until it is safe for her son to return to Ukraine.
I worry about the people in the big cities. Anna and Mischa in Kharkiv, Anna's sister Luba in Kiev. If they have a prolonged siege of those cities and Russia resorts to bombing civilian targets it could be terrible.
One of her friends told her that the balcony, windows and furniture have been destroyed by a bomb. The bomb also busted the gas line and they were thankful the window was busted to let the gas out. They slept in the stairwell that night. It is about 28 degrees in her city. The hospital just had some windows blown out.
I have hit a few roadblocks with getting her son to the states. Applying for a normal visa would take two years. It took me a year and a half to get my wife here on a 90 day fiance' visa, so no surprise. Also the US is not taking tourist visas from the Ukraine right now. I am hoping the US will start accepting refugees, like they did for Afghanistan.
If the US accepts refugees. Ukrainians can fill out a form online to request what is called "parole". It takes about 3 days to get a response. Once they have parole the airlines can then accept them for flights to the US. Once in the US they will get finger printed. This would not only open the door for my step son but also anyone else I know to get out.
As of now it is too dangerous to flee. They are better off and safer in their homes. If they do open up safe corridors and my family can get out, I will rent an apartment somewhere in Europe and wait to see if America opens the door for refugees. If they don't, we will just stay in Europe until it is safe for her son to return to Ukraine.
I worry about the people in the big cities. Anna and Mischa in Kharkiv, Anna's sister Luba in Kiev. If they have a prolonged siege of those cities and Russia resorts to bombing civilian targets it could be terrible.
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