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re: Should I leave Ukraine?
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:12 pm to Miketheseventh
Posted on 3/10/22 at 7:12 pm to Miketheseventh
That's the first good laugh I had in a while. :).
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Posted on 3/10/22 at 8:09 pm to wileyjones
You need to lift, do bjj, and work on your cardio
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:09 pm to N2daWild
I know I am sitting here in the US but I really wish I could help in some way
Posted on 3/10/22 at 9:22 pm to Prominentwon
quote:
The poli board is claiming none of this is real and it’s all just theater
Those people are pathetic. Its not like its one news network trying to push an agenda by reporting one something that you are not hearing anywhere else. All networks are reporting on it, people on social media talking about relatives there, etc.. You know what it would take to put that kind of effort into a story that isn't real?
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:23 am to OweO
UPDATE 3/11/2022
The wife and baby are feeling a little better today, which is good.
She told me a man she knew went outside to smoke a cigarette and was killed by a bomb. This is actually the first person she knows personally that has been killed since the invasion.
There are a few stores and pharmacies open but they are price gouging and their supplies are low.
The gas stations are shut down. If you do drive your car, the Ukrainian army could commandeer your vehicle.
She told me that it will be absolutely impossible for me to get to them.
Her friend Yanna, who was in Kharkiv, was able to evacuate to a relative in Germany she believes. Anna and Mischa are still there and safe with utilities. She told my wife that people are looting inside her apartment complex, the people that evacuated.
We talked a little politics. I told her Putin wants Crimea for Russia. Putin wants Luhansk and Donetsk to have their independence and for Ukraine not to join NATO. I told her Zelensky doesn't want to give up the territories. She then told me that Lisichansk is not in separatist controlled territory but it is still part of Luhansk region and the area of Donbas. If they agree to give Luhansk their independence, Lisichansk could become part of their territory. She says she doesn't care as long as they stop fighting.
If Lisichansk does become part of the independent territory of Luhansk it could have a lot of ramifications on our future. We were looking to buy a home in Lisichansk this summer, which we still might do. We planned on visiting every summer. So if it is Luhansk, will I need a visa to visit? Will they be using the ruble currency? How will it affect her parents?
I told her to pay attention to the news about America taking in refugees. If America opens that door, I told her I would buy plane tickets for anyone of her relatives that want to come.
Went I was in business school, I remember what our Economic Professor once said. When America takes in uneducated refugees it hurts our economy, when they take in educated refugees it helps our economy. I read an article yesterday that suggested that America not only take in Ukrainians but Russians as well to fill our labor shortage. Many of them are educated because that is expected in their culture.
I'm not smart enough to know if all of that is true. I do know the process of getting foreign education evaluated and validated is very difficult. I know plenty of engineers and Doctors in foreign countries that can not get a decent job in America because of that difficult process.
Things can change very drastically in one day right now. There are things I am working on, but mostly I am forced to wait until an opportunity presents itself. Patience is not one of my virtues.
Thank you guys again for all the support. This nightmare will end eventually and perhaps some good will come of it, like getting some of her relatives here in America.
The wife and baby are feeling a little better today, which is good.
She told me a man she knew went outside to smoke a cigarette and was killed by a bomb. This is actually the first person she knows personally that has been killed since the invasion.
There are a few stores and pharmacies open but they are price gouging and their supplies are low.
The gas stations are shut down. If you do drive your car, the Ukrainian army could commandeer your vehicle.
She told me that it will be absolutely impossible for me to get to them.
Her friend Yanna, who was in Kharkiv, was able to evacuate to a relative in Germany she believes. Anna and Mischa are still there and safe with utilities. She told my wife that people are looting inside her apartment complex, the people that evacuated.
We talked a little politics. I told her Putin wants Crimea for Russia. Putin wants Luhansk and Donetsk to have their independence and for Ukraine not to join NATO. I told her Zelensky doesn't want to give up the territories. She then told me that Lisichansk is not in separatist controlled territory but it is still part of Luhansk region and the area of Donbas. If they agree to give Luhansk their independence, Lisichansk could become part of their territory. She says she doesn't care as long as they stop fighting.
If Lisichansk does become part of the independent territory of Luhansk it could have a lot of ramifications on our future. We were looking to buy a home in Lisichansk this summer, which we still might do. We planned on visiting every summer. So if it is Luhansk, will I need a visa to visit? Will they be using the ruble currency? How will it affect her parents?
I told her to pay attention to the news about America taking in refugees. If America opens that door, I told her I would buy plane tickets for anyone of her relatives that want to come.
Went I was in business school, I remember what our Economic Professor once said. When America takes in uneducated refugees it hurts our economy, when they take in educated refugees it helps our economy. I read an article yesterday that suggested that America not only take in Ukrainians but Russians as well to fill our labor shortage. Many of them are educated because that is expected in their culture.
I'm not smart enough to know if all of that is true. I do know the process of getting foreign education evaluated and validated is very difficult. I know plenty of engineers and Doctors in foreign countries that can not get a decent job in America because of that difficult process.
Things can change very drastically in one day right now. There are things I am working on, but mostly I am forced to wait until an opportunity presents itself. Patience is not one of my virtues.
Thank you guys again for all the support. This nightmare will end eventually and perhaps some good will come of it, like getting some of her relatives here in America.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:49 am to Prominentwon
quote:
The poli board is claiming none of this is real and it’s all just theater. .
The average Poli board poster is sick in the head…. generally speaking, posting regularly on the Poli board is a sign of a serious mental disorder .
Posted on 3/11/22 at 8:50 am to N2daWild
Glad they’re feeling better.
Do you mind if I ask where you are? Here in America?
Do you mind if I ask where you are? Here in America?
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:09 am to N2daWild
quote:
Covington, La.
There no more room here for refugees.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:26 am to Slingin Pickle
quote:
There no more room here for refugees.
You should get rid of the ones that are there and take in the ones he is talking about that will make society a better place....educated refugees.
Posted on 3/11/22 at 9:29 am to N2daWild
quote:
Should I leave Ukraine
Posted on 3/11/22 at 10:16 am to OweO
You are such an idiot. Nobody is claiming the war in Ukraine isn’t real. STFU and go soak yourself in some more Biden excrement
This thread is about Wild and Ukraine
This thread is about Wild and Ukraine
Posted on 3/13/22 at 6:00 pm to N2daWild
Have you talked to your wife recently? My prayers are with all of you.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 6:09 pm to CoastLSUFan
I haven't heard from her in two days. I will post an update when I can get in touch with her.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 6:27 pm to N2daWild
You and your family are continuously in my thoughts and prayers. I have read that Russia is now allowing some humanitarian evacuations to proceed without being attacked. I am hopeful that your wife and children will be able to leave safely and can eventually make their way back to the US. Godspeed.
Posted on 3/13/22 at 6:27 pm to N2daWild
quote:
haven't heard from her in two days. I will post an update when I can get in touch with her.
Prayers my man. I hope things get better.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 5:19 am to sportsaddit68
UPDATE: 3/14/2022 Thank you guys again for the support.
I spoke to my wife briefly this morning. A bomb landed in her parents back yard. They have an outhouse and what they call a summer shower that were destroyed and the windows in the back of the house were blown out.
They are now staying with the neighbor along with three other families. The parents house has no electricity or internet but the neighbor has both. The neighbor also has a larger cellar that they can use as a bomb shelter.
I can't imagine what it is like to wake up to your windows being blown out. It must have been a pretty shocking way to come out of your sleep.
She told me that Luda and her daughter have moved to her parents house but her husband Sasha is staying at the apartment and is still working for the gas company.
Anna is okay in Kharkiv and well supplied. Her son's father Validimir and Anna's sister Luba in Kiev are okay.
I keep hoping the negotiations will produce something. There seems to be some progress on that front. I am hoping they can at least come to a cease fire, but that isn't typically the way Putin negotiates. I'm still hoping to hear news about American accepting refugees but nothing new on that front.
I feel better now that I talked to them, but certainly don't feel better about a bomb dropping that close to them.
I realize these are random thoughts but that is how my brain is processing right now. I gave a lot of thought to the humanitarian situation in Ukraine. I worry about Sveta in Mariupol, an elderly widow that use to hug me crying saying I reminded of her son. I need to try to reach out to her daughter in Iowa.
I wonder how the other elderly people are doing in Ukraine. I wonder about the homeless people or the people that have health issues. I know my father-in-law is still delivering babies. Even when humanitarian aid is brought in, how do they distribute it to the households. Most Ukrainians don't have a car. How do they know where to go for supplies and when?
Even people that are supplied, like Anna in Kharkiv, can have it very difficult. Many of us in La. know what it is like after a hurricane. After a week of not being able to cook your food and no television or internet for entertainment you start going a little crazy.
Sorry, random thoughts. I'm just trying to wrap my head around all of this. I will update when I can.
I spoke to my wife briefly this morning. A bomb landed in her parents back yard. They have an outhouse and what they call a summer shower that were destroyed and the windows in the back of the house were blown out.
They are now staying with the neighbor along with three other families. The parents house has no electricity or internet but the neighbor has both. The neighbor also has a larger cellar that they can use as a bomb shelter.
I can't imagine what it is like to wake up to your windows being blown out. It must have been a pretty shocking way to come out of your sleep.
She told me that Luda and her daughter have moved to her parents house but her husband Sasha is staying at the apartment and is still working for the gas company.
Anna is okay in Kharkiv and well supplied. Her son's father Validimir and Anna's sister Luba in Kiev are okay.
I keep hoping the negotiations will produce something. There seems to be some progress on that front. I am hoping they can at least come to a cease fire, but that isn't typically the way Putin negotiates. I'm still hoping to hear news about American accepting refugees but nothing new on that front.
I feel better now that I talked to them, but certainly don't feel better about a bomb dropping that close to them.
I realize these are random thoughts but that is how my brain is processing right now. I gave a lot of thought to the humanitarian situation in Ukraine. I worry about Sveta in Mariupol, an elderly widow that use to hug me crying saying I reminded of her son. I need to try to reach out to her daughter in Iowa.
I wonder how the other elderly people are doing in Ukraine. I wonder about the homeless people or the people that have health issues. I know my father-in-law is still delivering babies. Even when humanitarian aid is brought in, how do they distribute it to the households. Most Ukrainians don't have a car. How do they know where to go for supplies and when?
Even people that are supplied, like Anna in Kharkiv, can have it very difficult. Many of us in La. know what it is like after a hurricane. After a week of not being able to cook your food and no television or internet for entertainment you start going a little crazy.
Sorry, random thoughts. I'm just trying to wrap my head around all of this. I will update when I can.
Posted on 3/14/22 at 6:23 am to N2daWild
I am glad to see that they weren’t injured by that bomb. That had to be frightening for them. Continued prayers for all of you.
Also, you may want to contact your congressman about the refugee situation. I know I have said it before, but they are great at helping to grease the wheels of the bureaucracy to get things done.
Also, you may want to contact your congressman about the refugee situation. I know I have said it before, but they are great at helping to grease the wheels of the bureaucracy to get things done.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:12 am to N2daWild
more prayers and support sent brother
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:22 am to Got Blaze
UPDATE 3/17/2022
I woke up to text messages from my wife's sister in Russia. Russia troops have moved into Lisichansk. My wife and baby were in the middle of the fighting and were shot at. Once the Russian troops pushed the Ukrainian army back, my wife and baby were moved to a shelter (Hospital where her father works)
I don't believe I will be able to contact my wife but through my sister-in-law. We texted about her leaving Ukraine. She is close to the Russian border and hopefully she can evacuate there. My daughter being an American citizen might complicate that.
Once they get to Russia, they can look at getting to another country, where I can meet them. Her son Ilya might have to stay in Russia with his Aunt until Biden decides to let Ukrainian refugees with family connections come to the USA.
When my wife told me that Ukrainian troops moved into Lisichansk a few days after the invasion started, I was disappointed. I knew it would only bring bombing and fighting to her city. Under Russian control, I hope the fighting will stop and in some ways it will be safer for her. I know she was well supplied at the apartment and her parents house. Living in the shelter, I have no idea how that will go, especially with the baby. I hope she will be given a safe corridor out of Ukraine, even if that is to Russia.
She is about to live a hard life. Living in the shelter with a baby during a war will not be easy. If they are able to evacuate, it will be cramped and uncomfortable. Once inside another country they will still have to be vetted in long lines, holding a baby. They will have to be sheltered again. Then she can work on getting plane tickets to somewhere else. She is about to go through hell.
I'm trying to make sense of my own emotions and questioning the decisions my wife and I have made. I refuse to feel anger towards my wife for not leaving before the war. She was fooled, like most Ukrainians that this war would not happen. Zelensky didn't want his economy to crash before the war and so the propaganda in Ukraine was saying war would not happen. Anyway, my thoughts are only to help her and the baby.
I look back at my own decision to leave and not stay with them. If I knew Russia would invade, I would not have left. I would still make that same decision today, but looking at things now it would have only hurt my family. I am actually in position to help my family more from here, even if it isn't my preference.
I woke up to text messages from my wife's sister in Russia. Russia troops have moved into Lisichansk. My wife and baby were in the middle of the fighting and were shot at. Once the Russian troops pushed the Ukrainian army back, my wife and baby were moved to a shelter (Hospital where her father works)
I don't believe I will be able to contact my wife but through my sister-in-law. We texted about her leaving Ukraine. She is close to the Russian border and hopefully she can evacuate there. My daughter being an American citizen might complicate that.
Once they get to Russia, they can look at getting to another country, where I can meet them. Her son Ilya might have to stay in Russia with his Aunt until Biden decides to let Ukrainian refugees with family connections come to the USA.
When my wife told me that Ukrainian troops moved into Lisichansk a few days after the invasion started, I was disappointed. I knew it would only bring bombing and fighting to her city. Under Russian control, I hope the fighting will stop and in some ways it will be safer for her. I know she was well supplied at the apartment and her parents house. Living in the shelter, I have no idea how that will go, especially with the baby. I hope she will be given a safe corridor out of Ukraine, even if that is to Russia.
She is about to live a hard life. Living in the shelter with a baby during a war will not be easy. If they are able to evacuate, it will be cramped and uncomfortable. Once inside another country they will still have to be vetted in long lines, holding a baby. They will have to be sheltered again. Then she can work on getting plane tickets to somewhere else. She is about to go through hell.
I'm trying to make sense of my own emotions and questioning the decisions my wife and I have made. I refuse to feel anger towards my wife for not leaving before the war. She was fooled, like most Ukrainians that this war would not happen. Zelensky didn't want his economy to crash before the war and so the propaganda in Ukraine was saying war would not happen. Anyway, my thoughts are only to help her and the baby.
I look back at my own decision to leave and not stay with them. If I knew Russia would invade, I would not have left. I would still make that same decision today, but looking at things now it would have only hurt my family. I am actually in position to help my family more from here, even if it isn't my preference.
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