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Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:30 am to
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25818 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:30 am to
Cell phones have largely eliminated the need to go "seek help" at some stranger's house in the middle of the night.

When I was in h.s., some guy ran off the country road near my parents' house and was hurt - dogs sounded off as he came up to the house. Woke me up and went outside - the guy was very cautious and quickly made it clear why he was there.

I wouldn't want to do that in this day and age.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
65721 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:30 am to
it wasn't erractic for him as it happened a year earlier
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:31 am to
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people don't have a right to defend their property?

Isn't it legal to shoot looters in riot situations?



I wonder this as well.....I had my shed broken into a couple of years at at 6 am on a Sunday morning....I wasnt home but my security cameras caught the whole thing on tape.....I wonder if I would have been home and happened to walk in the backyard to drink my coffee and confronted this guy, would I have been within my rights to walk back inside get a gun and shoot him while he was rummaging through my shed?
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
177277 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:32 am to
quote:

inside get a gun and shoot him while he was rummaging through my shed?



my understanding is yes, but if he tries to flee while you confront him, you can't go shooting him in the back running away.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69716 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:39 am to
quote:

confronted this guy, would I have been within my rights to walk back inside get a gun and shoot him while he was rummaging through my shed?



i think the problem you would have is going inside and getting a gun. The problem would be well why didn't you call 911. Now if you go out with a gun and still feel threatened I think its more likely you won't get charged...but I have no idea
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11951 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:50 am to
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His fiancée, Kirsta Maelyn Flores, confirmed that he was fatally shot in Ozone Woods, the same neighborhood where she said he had been shot about a year earlier.


LOL... do what?
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11951 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 9:55 am to
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according to the comments on NOLA.com the man was bashing cars in the mans driveway...I dont think that gives him the right to shoot them man....maybe he should have stayed inside and called 911



Just because you're too much of a pussy to go out and confront someone a-hole that is damaging your personal property, doesn't mean that the shooter in this case doesn't have the right to. In fact, he is perfectly within his legal rights to frick them up. And, I applaud him for doing so (if the comments on NOLA.com, as you mentioned, are correct).
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:02 am to
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the dead man was Seth Riley Flores, 22. His fiancée, Kirsta Maelyn Flores,


That's odd.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20169 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:09 am to
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someone wakes you up making noise in your yard, you ask them to get off your property and they approach you aggressively... Fire away


Pretty sure you can't just shoot someone in your yard. They have to be trying to actively break into your home or car. You can't just shoot someone for acting what you perceive to be erratically in your yard. Dude should have gone inside, locked the door and called the cops. Another life wasted for no good reason, imho.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
75037 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:10 am to
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the dead man was Seth Riley Flores, 22. His fiancée, Kirsta Maelyn Flores,


That's odd.


that's odd. when did slidell move to arkansas?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:10 am to
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Just because you're too much of a pussy to go out and confront someone a-hole that is damaging your personal property, doesn't mean that the shooter in this case doesn't have the right to. In fact, he is perfectly within his legal rights to frick them up.


wut?
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11951 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:11 am to
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wut?


How did that statement confuse you????
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20169 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:11 am to
quote:

In Texas it is perfectly legal to shoot someone that is in your yard or on your property if it dark outside.


bullshite. This is demonstrably untrue.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:12 am to
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Pretty sure you can't just shoot someone in your yard. They have to be trying to actively break into your home or car. You can't just shoot someone for acting what you perceive to be erratically in your yard. Dude should have gone inside, locked the door and called the cops. Another life wasted for no good reason, imho.


Yeah, let's not blame the guy actually committing the fricking crime.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
75037 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:12 am to
quote:

etty sure you can't just shoot someone in your yard



but, what if you have one of those "trespassers will be shot on site' signs?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:14 am to
Calm down Luke...why are you so angry?
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:16 am to
In Louisiana you actually can. We had a case like this in NOLA a few years ago. The homeowner wasn't charged. A little excerpt as to why Cannizaro didn't charge him:

LINK



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"State law," the source noted, says "there shall be a presumption that a person lawfully inside a dwelling, place or business or motor vehicle held a reasonable belief that the use of force or violence was necessary to prevent unlawful entry thereto or to compel an unlawful intruder to leave the premises."

Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11951 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Calm down Luke...why are you so angry?

quote:

Luke


Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20169 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:18 am to
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Yeah, let's not blame the guy actually committing the fricking crime.


What crime? A dude in your yard in and of itself doesn't constitute a crime.

That's what the police are for.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25511 posts
Posted on 1/17/17 at 10:18 am to
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Pretty sure you can't just shoot someone in your yard.


If the homeowner came outside and told the person to get off his property and then he came towards the homeowner in a threatening manner, then yes the homeowner can shoot him legally.

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Another life wasted for no good reason, imho


Seems like he wasted his own life with his actions....
quote:

But she said Flores had caused problems in the neighborhood, and the Sheriff's Office had been called on previous occasions because he was suspected in car break-ins.

quote:

Flores had a criminal record, including a conviction for a misdemeanor count of simple battery in 2016 to which he pled guilty, a third-offense possession of marijuana charge to which he pled guilty in 2014 and three felony counts of simple burglary in 2013 to which he also pled guilty.
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