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Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:26 am to
Posted by Texastiger43
Houston
Member since Oct 2015
557 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:26 am to
You start doing the research to find out who was a slave owner in the past.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:27 am to
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Why is the US the only place where this is a continuing issue in 2020?



Because introspection is hard. And often uncomfortable. It's much easier to blame others and refuse to change.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57419 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:29 am to
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But NA, damn they lost a lot of land and got murdered over it. I’m not very influential and work a lot so I’m not gonna be the one to start the movement for them


Not to mention the failure, and perfect learning opportunity of the reservation. Poverty, crime, low education, alcoholism, and drug use are very high on Indian reservations. Why are these areas (as well as inner cities) so disproportionately affected by this? Because when government gives you something that you did not work for or earn, and continues to support you and prop you up, incentive for everyone involved to achieve for themsevles ALWAYS decreases and people figure "why work, i'm getting this for free".

Humans need a job. It's part of our nature. From early man, some were hunters, some were foragers, some were warriors, some made things...everyone had a job. Now, Democrats are doing everything they can to ensure YOU DON'T HAVE A JOB, and are reliant solely on government. Seattle is a perfect example of young idiots not having any meaningful work in their lives, being coddled as kids, or having absent parents, and anarchy is the result.
Posted by Gamecock1990
Member since Nov 2018
55 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:39 am to
The only reason I have raised this issue here is to promote a discussion of revisionist history. We have removed salient parts of history to push forward a political movement towards a communist society.

We should only look at the bolsheviks and cuban nationalist revolutions- the starting point for both were revisionist hustory.

By the way - the emancipation proclamation took force of law on January 1, 1863. Learn some basic history
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:39 am to
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the Roman Empire


And they killed Jesus
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
19585 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:43 am to
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End unions, and make teachers accountable, and you might see grades improve in some areas. Other than that, it's really up to the parents, and in the "community" being educated is "selling out".


Government institutions cannot raise good citizens, only parents can. That is the root cause of the problem, but no politician can say it, so they keep throwing money at lost causes.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
64149 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:05 am to
Slavery abolition by country and date.

Wow, I didn't know there were evil white colonists ruling Saudi Arabia until 1962.

Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5457 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:13 am to
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you know the people in Africa who actually sold the slaves to the traders. That always seems to get completely glossed over.



This is the part that gets overlooked way too often. If I get caught buying stolen merchandise how am I guilty of a crime of a higher degree than the one who stole, then sold, said merchandise.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:26 am to
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the Roman Empire
And they killed Jesus


Well, they just drove the nails. The Jewish Sanhedrin passed sentence but, being in a Roman land, had to run all their executions through a Roman court.

Pilate: I have no reason to charge Jesus. He's committed no crime against Rome. Shall I free him?
Sanhedrin: No, tack him up. Give us Barrabas instead.
>>Pilate washes hands<<
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 8:28 am
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:44 am to
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more people are enslaved today than at any other time in history. Experts have calculated that roughly 13 million people were captured and sold as slaves between the 15th and 19th centuries; today, an estimated 40.3 million people – more than three times the figure during the transatlantic slave trade – are living in some form of modern slavery, according to the latest figures published by the UN’s International Labour Organization (ILO) and the Walk Free Foundation. Women and girls comprise 71% of all modern slavery victims. Children make up 25% and account for 10 million of all the slaves worldwide.



LINK

Interesting.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45979 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:46 am to
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You start doing the research to find out who was a slave owner in the past.


Washington Duke owned slaves* and fought for the confederacy. He and his sons ushered in the new age of cigarettes to the country.

When is Duke university changing their name?

*He didn't own many and claimed to be anti slavery.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23942 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:50 am to
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No comparison to black slaves in America....

You ever read the Bible? The Jews had a pretty horrible slavery experience with the pharoahs.
Posted by Conner4real
Earth
Member since Sep 2017
455 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:53 am to
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So, when will we be ready to discuss this topic



Right around the time blacks stop blaming white people for everything and start taking responsibility for their own failures.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1827 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:56 am to
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So, when will we be ready to discuss this topicSlavery abolition by country and date. Wow, I didn't know there were evil white colonists ruling Saudi Arabia until 1962.


I call BS on Germany being in the blue category.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:01 am to
Or the "white" people who really ran the slave trade.
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4784 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:08 am to
The “Native Americans” aren’t really native.They are more properly known as Indigenous people.They migrated from Asia across the land bridge and settled North America at least 15,000 years ago.So they were here a lot longer than the European settlers.The morality and ethics of being conquered by Europeans is a whole other argument.The same thing happened in other countries,for example Australia.The Aboriginal people were there for an estimated 65,000 years before the Brish established colonies.
Posted by PacoPicopiedra
1 Ft. Above Sea Level
Member since Apr 2012
1352 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:09 am to
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Native Americans are the ones who should be on the forefront of a movement with media, protesting, etc


Native Americans were slave owners also, even after the end of the Civil War (the 13th Amendment didn't apply to Native lands in Oklahoma).

The Native Americans Who Also Owned Slaves


"In 1860…Cherokee Nation citizens owned 2,511 slaves (15 percent of their total population), Choctaw citizens owned 2,349 slaves (14 percent of their total population), and Creek citizens owned 1,532 slaves (10 percent of their total population). Chickasaw citizens owned 975 slaves, which amounted to 18 percent of their total population, a proportion equivalent to that of white slave owners in Tennessee, a former neighbour of the Chickasaw Nation and a large slaveholding state."


But that's ok, I guess, because they were just copying the white man.
Posted by Geauxboy
NW Arkansas
Member since Oct 2006
4856 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:45 am to
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there were white slaves

No comparison to black slaves in America....


Do the blacks get to monopolize being hanged as well?
Posted by jkylejohnson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2016
14608 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:21 am to
"dey don't wanna speak on dat "
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80596 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:24 am to
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Who gives a frick? Not one person alive in this country has ever been a slave. Not one person alive in this country has ever been a slavemaster. Stop carrying dead peoples' baggage.
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