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re: Southern Baptist Convention: IVF is a sin

Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:16 pm to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16363 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:16 pm to
I’m convinced you don’t even know what you’re saying so how are we supposed to figure it out.
Posted by ApexHunterNetcode
Member since Aug 2023
600 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:17 pm to
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It is being outlawed in many places now


Where? Just when I thought humanity may have a chance.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11953 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:27 pm to
Every law is dictating morality
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22664 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:32 pm to
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew a you.”

I doubt the Heavenly Father is sitting up there going “Well, that baby is IVF so I don’t really have a plan for it.”

It’s like saying curing cancer or having a lifesaving surgery is unnatural and a sin because it goes against God’s will.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61497 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:34 pm to
I sin every day, multiple times a day, I am not better than you.

Pretty tough to have discussions of morality without coming across as critical or judgmental because one side will always come from a perspective of feeling attacked. I try to use language to avoid that, but I’m not sure it’s avoidable, especially when most people’s perspectives are shaped by their personal experiences making it seem like someone critical of an issue is critical of the person

most times I try to avoid putting my political or religious beliefs on here at all.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
32681 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:34 pm to
Know why Baptist don't have sex standing up?
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33675 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:37 pm to
My grandparents were southern Baptist and I have a good friend that is

They talk about the craziest shite. They are taught the rapture is coming at any day so anytime something bad happens in the world… rapture is coming.

They also loved the cherry pick narratives in the Bible. Time for them to get in the 21st-century
Posted by adavis
North of I-10
Member since Aug 2007
5953 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:37 pm to
When you get into adopting personal interpretations of scripture as doctrine, you lose congregation members and push people away from Christianity. As Christians, we should be unapologetic in absolute truths- Jesus died for your sins and directed us to love others. God speaks to us directly-some people call that your conscience. Some things don’t require an executive decision from flawed men.
Posted by ThePoo
Work
Member since Jan 2007
61497 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:40 pm to
You are going to open a whole philosophical can of worms I don’t have the energy for haha

I’m not old but I’m too old at the same time
Posted by Bubb
Member since Mar 2010
4250 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:41 pm to
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They destroy fertilized embryos during the process.



This.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31419 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:42 pm to
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Fertilized embryos aren't destroyed in the process unless you choose to destroy them.



And even if they are so fvckin what. It's a cell. Has no consciousness, has no feelings or thoughts or hell organs. It's a fvckin cell.
Posted by MikeAV8s
Member since Oct 2016
2280 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:55 pm to
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I wish I could do that here. This is not the place and plus I would be violating my promises to keep certain mysteries secret - seek the truth and you'll find it. :)


Of course…..
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
13008 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:56 pm to
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Of course…..
Cats like you make me sorry I even expressed an opinion in this here thread, but I hope at least one person finds inspiration in my words herein...

I'm out
Posted by Foch
Member since Feb 2015
804 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:02 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/15/24 at 3:42 pm
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40673 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:10 pm to
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Not natural.


Chemo is unnatural. Ventilators are unnatural.


Those a sin too?

Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1723 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:13 pm to
IVF clinics aren't going to destroy your embryos without your consent. You can donate them if you would like. An IFV procedure involves one embryo at a time. I've also never heard of the embryo being destroyed by freezing (not to say it can't happen).

Most couples going through IFV attempted IUI first. I wonder why the SBC didn't weigh in on that?
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25273 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:20 pm to
IVF isn’t new. Few years ago it was fine and now it’s “bad”?
This post was edited on 6/12/24 at 8:55 pm
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1668 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:21 pm to
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Think for a moment about the power to create a human life. The power of creation is sacred. Our power as humans to create a human life in the image of the Great Creator is very Holy and Divine. It's easy to see why. The power of creation is the power of God.


If the power to create life is God’s alone, then it logically follows that the power to end life also belongs to God alone. If you get cancer, please refuse medical treatment to adhere to God’s plan for you.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40106 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:22 pm to
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You mean like Catholics and every conceivable sin? Just step behind the curtain into the phone booth and tell the perv in the flowing gown about it. Th


Famously not home to a lot of pedos, the southern Baptist ,
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 8:22 pm to
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but in our case the IVF pregnancy "rebooted" my wife's system which led to naturally occurring pregnancies

Can vouch
We went thru IVF.... 6 weeks after my boy was born my wife called and told me she was pregnant.
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