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Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

Uhhh. I wouldnt call it weak to have a husband help care for their child.



Nah, men are supposed to be cold and distant. They are just there to bring in the money and make sure no one falls out of line. Raising the kids goes all on your sex. Now get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich.











This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 10:04 pm
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
17986 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Like marriage, parenting is a partnership. That's the way it is.



Again, I find this is the way it should be. My post came across sexist, when really, it is good to hear that things are more equal. I think what I didn't convey was how much women used to shoulder. It wasn't meant as criticism to modern women. The realization that my mom put up with a lot of shite was shocking. It was just the way it was. Friendly commentary people.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
17986 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Really? How was that?


She wore the sneer, even when not playing Mrs. Jaime Lannister
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
17986 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

OMLandshark


BTW, I didn't know it was her. They said "You will walk across the lobby and Lena will cross in front. Hey, let's introduce you. Liz, Lena, Lena, Liz." I looked up (I'm short, she's not) and almost whispered "OMG, please kill Joffrey"
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:10 pm to
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My post came across sexist, when really, it is good to hear that things are more equal.


I'm glad that's coming across to you, because your OP seems highly sexist towards both sexes. It kind of seems like you were thinking men who stay at home to nurse a sick kid and to help their wife when they first have a kid are pussies, and women are naturally weaker in all aspects than men are. Kind of paints us as cold and distant, and yall as simply our servants. Yeah, it's preferable for the man to have a great income to support everyone, but that's not how society at large works in this day and age.
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:11 pm to
quote:

BTW, I didn't know it was her. They said "You will walk across the lobby and Lena will cross in front. Hey, let's introduce you. Liz, Lena, Lena, Liz." I looked up (I'm short, she's not) and almost whispered "OMG, please kill Joffrey"



Yeah, she looks very different IRL from her character. Tatted up to the max.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61043 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:12 pm to
Women in the 80s had big hairy pusses and didn't give blowjobs and none made big salaries

I'll watch a sick kid as a trade off
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
17986 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:17 pm to
I am sorry I came off that way. I tried to explain I have no kids. I have always been super independent, so my views of parenting, relationships and life in general are skewed. My forceful way of relating backfired, because I really wanted an open discourse. These were my observations: A high powered female exec almost belittling a male who was staying home with a sick child. Exec has children, but is the bread winner. It was confusing, because he was doing the right thing.

My wording sucked, apologies. Was raised in a 1950's household, still trying to break it.

VERY tatted!
This post was edited on 4/7/16 at 10:18 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:22 pm to
No problem. Sorry for the disconnect and the insane comment.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
17986 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

No problem. Sorry for the disconnect and the insane comment.



Thanks for keeping me in check, gotta watch those women...
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3246 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:04 pm to
So are you as equally judgemental of those with HIV or the impoverished? Assuming you aren't full of shite about working on set...I would think you would be a little more open minded. At minimum I would keep your sexist ideals to your self. Hollywood/Silicon Valley don't take kindly to that shite. See North Carolina....
Posted by its1999
Member since Aug 2009
1040 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

These were my observations: A high powered female exec almost belittling a male who was staying home with a sick child. Exec has children, but is the bread winner. It was confusing, because he was doing the right thing.


Exec was bashing dude because he was doing a thing most caring parents will do, that she's likely never done. As an exec, she most likely dropped the parenting ball a lot and feels guilty for that, so bash that guy and make it seem normal to abandon your sick kid.

Tbh, yes a lot of the tough parenting times (illness, homework, driving to practices, making meals, hygiene habits) still fall on moms, even those who work full time. But today's dads have stepped up like no generation before. My baby book says my dad would change #1 diapers but never #2s. That was probably progressive back in the late 70s. My husband hardly batted an eye at up the back, into the hair explosive shite bombs. Not to say if I was awake & nearby he wouldn't try to pawn that off, but he cleaned his share. That's progress.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:20 pm to
Damn, no need to get that upset, she did apologize in her last post for not coming across the way she originally intended to do.


Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
107717 posts
Posted on 4/7/16 at 11:22 pm to
Have none judge none.
Posted by Benne Wafer
Member since Jan 2015
457 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 6:56 am to
quote:

My post came across sexist, when really, it is good to hear that things are more equal. I think what I didn't convey was how much women used to shoulder.

Make no mistake, women today probably still do shoulder most of the day to day childcare, even those working just as much as the fathers. The assumption that childcare is the mother's "job" is still very much present. Many fathers are praised to the heavens by older generations when they merely change a diaper or "baby sitting" ( ) while it is just expected of moms. But fathers are stepping up much more these days than they have in the past. And they continue to step up more and that is a good thing. Not only for moms but it is amazing for the kids to have a present father. We have girls, my husband knows one of his main jobs is to model the type of healthy relationship that he hopes they find when they are older. That and keeping them off the pole.

It is good to realize your mom put up with a lot of shite. You should give her a call and tell her, she'd get a kick out of that. If you have kids later, you will realize the additional metric ton of shite she had to put up with in the course of being a mom. Being a parent is awesome but it is exhausting. So very, very mentally exhausting sometimes.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
73573 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 7:05 am to
quote:

Women in the 80s had big hairy pusses and didn't give blowjobs and none made big salaries
Wrong
Wrong
Wrong

0/3

Your troll attempt was as weak as the OP's.

Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 7:20 am to
quote:


Exec was bashing dude because he was doing a thing most caring parents will do, that she's likely never done. As an exec, she most likely dropped the parenting ball a lot and feels guilty for that, so bash that guy and make it seem normal to abandon your sick kid


Spot on. I see this a lot. Moms/Dads who are workaholics forget that part of being a dad is to be physically present. Not just work your arse off and throw a bunch of money at the family. There should be a healthy balance. My parents were that way. I'm trying to break the cycle with my kids.
This post was edited on 4/8/16 at 7:21 am
Posted by laangler21
On the lake.
Member since May 2012
3034 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 7:21 am to
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I do have kids and am also a product of the 70's/80's. I have happily stayed home with sick children, changed plenty of diapers, fed the kids, brought them to the doctor, cleaned up their scratches, cleaned up their vomit, and shared in everything that used to be the purview of mothers. Our dads missed out on a lot of things because societal norms didn't encourage them to be caretakers in that way. I wouldn't trade it for anything.


All of this.
Posted by mjohn
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2016
9 posts
Posted on 4/8/16 at 11:58 am to
You are right. Grandparents are lazy as hell now.
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