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Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:17 pm to StringedInstruments
Our weekly bash a teacher thread...
We need more operator ones, we've been slacking
We need more operator ones, we've been slacking
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:19 pm to Scruffy
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You forgot though, teachers are the only ones who put in extra hours they "don't get paid for"
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Poor teachers.
He was being sarcastic. shite, there have been times where I've worked until 6am the next day, slept for a couple hours, and then put in another 18 hour day immediately following. Working until 10 or 11 pm is not at all uncommon when things are busy. And every hour I work, the company makes an extra $275, of which I maybe will see a tiny bit in my bonus. It's bullshite, but it's also life. I can get a different job if I don't like it.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:23 pm to JetFuelTyga
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Anyone that says teacher's are underpaid have obviously never spent time with a large group of children. Let anyone switch jobs (4th grade teacher) with me and I bet they would be running back to there cozy desk job in no time!
A couple things. First, I hope you're not an english or grammar teacher. Second, it always entertains me to hear teachers or people who are not in the corporate world provide their impression of how "easy, stress free, and glamorous" it is
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:24 pm to Thacian
Day Care is where it's at!
They are making a killing right now
They are making a killing right now
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:25 pm to Thacian
You mean paid for only 9 months of work?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:25 pm to Chucktown_Badger
The "only 2 incentives" to being a teacher if you call it an incentive, are you can retire possibly earlier than age 62 and always be guaranteed a job provided you do what is expected...as far as time off, most teachers work 3 or 4 extra jobs to make ends meet whether it be summer school, extra partime work etc.
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:29 pm to Thacian
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how about their insurance goes up purposely....
Wait, are you complaining about the benefits teachers get? Because when it comes to insurance, in Illinois at least, they pay next to nothing for their coverage, and dental and vision are free. It's unreal how good their benefits are.
Bachelor's and master's salaries in Illinois
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At 3 years $48,577 $55,559
At 6 years $54,485 $61,421
At 9 years $61,112 $67,901
At 12 years $68,545 $75,065
And this. I mean, goddamn.
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As an Illinois teacher, you contribute 9.4% of your monthly salary to a defined benefit plan that provides lifetime retirement benefits for you and your fellow teachers. Upon reaching normal retirement age and terminating your employment, you’re eligible to receive monthly pension benefits.
In Illinois, you may receive full benefits if you’re 67 years old with 10 years of service credit, or reduced benefits at 62 years old with 10 years of service credit.
The exact percentages in the formula are subject to change, but current teachers factor their retirement benefits using the following: Years of Service (percentage) multiplied by Average Yearly Salary The legislature awards 2.2 percentage points for each year of service, up to a maximum of 75%. You receive this figure in monthly benefit payments each year. So, for example, if you worked for 30 years, this would figure into 66% of your average yearly salary. If you terminated employment with an average salary of $55,000, you would earn a monthly retirement benefit of $3,025.
So essentially, if you were a teacher from 24-54 and retired making $70,000, you'd get $46,000 a year until you die. Retiring at 54. Sit with that for a bit.
ETA: And now you're starting to see why Illinois is one of, if not the most, fiscally insolvent state in our great union.
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:31 pm to Thacian
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most teachers work 3 or 4 extra jobs to make ends meet whether it be summer school, extra partime work etc.
Do you have a source for this claim?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:33 pm to Thacian
Didn't even read. Just downvoted.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:35 pm to Thacian
Holy shite what a pathetic bitch of a thread. 
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:38 pm to Thacian
So who's teaching fourteen year old LaAndre fourth grade math while you're whining online?
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:47 pm to Thacian
Double post...
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:49 pm to madmaxvol
Very incorrect numbers....average teacher makes 45 at best
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:51 pm to Thacian
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average teacher makes $56,760. The school year runs 39 weeks. If you just take their time at the school you are looking at 1,560 hours or just over $36 per hour.
So, they actually work more than 40 hours per week. Who the hell has a salaried job that isn't expected to put in more than 40 per week? How many people only work 3/4 of the year, and get a pension? Don't get me started on the tenure process.
Face it...teachers knew what the earning potential of their career choice was before they even chose their major in college. If they didn't, then they aren't very smart.
BTW...my wife's last day of teaching is May 19th. She worked for 20 years as a Research Scientist and chose to change fields to teach because she had a passion for it. She is earning less than half what she did before...and she is ok with that. She understands that it is the path she chose and it wasn't forced on her.
So, they actually work more than 40 hours per week. Who the hell has a salaried job that isn't expected to put in more than 40 per week? How many people only work 3/4 of the year, and get a pension? Don't get me started on the tenure process.
Face it...teachers knew what the earning potential of their career choice was before they even chose their major in college. If they didn't, then they aren't very smart.
BTW...my wife's last day of teaching is May 19th. She worked for 20 years as a Research Scientist and chose to change fields to teach because she had a passion for it. She is earning less than half what she did before...and she is ok with that. She understands that it is the path she chose and it wasn't forced on her.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:51 pm to Chucktown_Badger
A public school teacher in La. will never retire making even close to 60k...maybe 55k with 30 yrs ,maybe....basically a teacher will start at 40k and after 30 yrs of everything positive and negative that comes with the job, the top of the scale as it is now 55k...you'll make roughly 72 percent of that when u retire which is barely above top pay for social security...so then teacher enter drop because 30 yrs isn't enough work done to retire from the bullshite they deal with and try to raise their retirement income to where it is close to living a normal rest of your life....u cant even live the normal life u lead as a teacher when ur retired...that alone is not a retirement if u ask me for doing everything a teacher has to do during his or her lifetime of work
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:54 pm to Thacian
I think teachers should be paid more, but for the purpose of attracting intelligent people to the profession.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:55 pm to Thacian
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Very incorrect numbers....average teacher makes 45 at best
BLS Teacher Salary
2016 - Teacher Median Annual Wages:
High School - $58,030
Preschool - Secondary: $54,720
"The lowest 10 percent earned less than $38,180, and the highest 10 percent earned more than $92,920."
ETA...so you were right...they actually make more than what I originally posted. My numbers were outdated.
This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 5/5/17 at 12:55 pm to Thacian
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.as far as time off, most teachers work 3 or 4 extra jobs to make ends meet whether it be summer school, extra partime work etc.
bullshite..."most" teachers aren't the primary income in a household. Working through the summer as a teacher doesn't count as having a 2nd job.
Posted on 5/5/17 at 1:01 pm to Thacian
As a former teacher, a good babysitter is more important
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