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Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Links to him being the perp who killed these people.
Not sure if it matters, but the Holtzman Amendment excluded anyone who collaborated/persecuted/etc with Nazi Germany.
It wasn't only limited to murders.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:55 pm to SCLibertarian
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Why wasn't this alleged as a grounds for deportation?
I’d have to go read the NTA, but I imagine they charged him with the easiest possible grounds of removal. Considering the venue, guy didn’t necessarily stand a chance in hell. DHS could have just showed up and gotten a removal order.
I can’t tell you why DHS chose to pursue him, but for 4 years they applied immigration law in a way that made no sense, so not shocking they did.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:57 pm to John88
WAIT just a minute. Didn’t Ilan Omar say the Hollicaust never happened? Which is it?
Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:59 pm to John88
No doubt the Nazis were pure evil, but i wonder how Germany handles this. I’m thinking all able-bodied German men of a certain age participated in one way or another. Do they imprison an entire generation? Did the average German citizen have a choice to not participate, and what would be the consequences if they chose to sit it out? Did they have choices on what type of role they played?
I know there’s a difference between being a soldier on the front lines and being a twisted sadist taking pleasure in his job torturing innocent people and going “above and beyond” to be extra evil. How do they prove who is who, especially this far removed?
I know there’s a difference between being a soldier on the front lines and being a twisted sadist taking pleasure in his job torturing innocent people and going “above and beyond” to be extra evil. How do they prove who is who, especially this far removed?
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:00 pm to SCLibertarian
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No there aren't. Unlike prior cases, this individual was never alleged to have himself committed any crime other than being present at a place where crimes allegedly took place. The government itself presented no evidence that he himself participated in any kind of individualized violence against the prisoners. And if this man was such a threat, why was he employed by the British after the war? Why was he allowed here in the first place, especially in Oak Ridge, Tennessee, where some of America's most top-secret projects took place during the Cold War? Hell, the amendment they're using to deport him wasn't even passed until 2 decades after he settled in America. The man was let into this country, did not commit fraud or misrepresentation to gain resident alien status and committed no crimes for 60 years while here, and now we want to deport him when he's 95? Frick that.
Trump's america, baby
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:05 pm to John88
IS the OT really sympathizing with someone who their Forefathers would've killed with zero hesitation in war? Might as well excuse isis then too huh
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:08 pm to Rick9Plus
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Prosecutors have no evidence of Berger lying about his work in the concentration camp. And when he arrived in 1959, Rosenbaum said, the United States had allowed postwar rules banning the entrance of participants in Nazi-sponsored persecution to sunset as the nation grew more concerned about the infiltration of communists.
This quote is directly from a Chicago Tribune article and it's my biggest issue with this entire saga. There was no law prohibiting Berger's entry at the time he settled in the United States. There is no evidence he lied or concealed any information about his past to immigration authorities. He worked for our Cold War ally in post-war Germany for a decade. And only in the late 1970's, after living here for 2 decades, did his deportation even become possible due to changes in US law. I don't see how he and others weren't grandfathered in and protected from future deportation proceedings that could be described as both arbitrary and unfair.
Chicago Tribune Article
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:09 pm to LSUlefty
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What was he supposed to do? Say no to Hitler?
Nobody was forced to be a guard. There were plenty of volunteers. It was a desirable alternative to front line combat.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:12 pm to SCLibertarian
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There is no evidence he lied or concealed any information about his past to immigration authorities.
He said he was in the German Navy.
Little things like genocide are hard to forgive.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:15 pm to Mo Jeaux
quote:Well you would have to start with FDR.
How many Americans have been tried for concentration camps filled with Japanese Americans?
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:15 pm to John88
That’s fricking BS.
Let the man just live his last few years out in peace.
Yes, i get what he did was wrong but he has made it this long, let it go.
And yes, before the knee jerkers come out, i would say the same thing of my relatives went to a concentration camp.
If you can’t forgive and let go, hate will consume you
Let the man just live his last few years out in peace.
Yes, i get what he did was wrong but he has made it this long, let it go.
And yes, before the knee jerkers come out, i would say the same thing of my relatives went to a concentration camp.
If you can’t forgive and let go, hate will consume you
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:18 pm to fightin tigers
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Little things like genocide are hard to forgive.
Then let's deport every individual who ever worked for the CIA.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:19 pm to AlonsoWDC
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Millions did.
It isn't this dude's right to live in America.
No, they didn't. And why is it that the Dems are fine with importing thousands of MS 13 members and other criminals from Central America?
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:20 pm to SCLibertarian
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This is an absolute waste of money and time.
Given all the bullshite we’ve done over the past year, I don’t give a shite.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:22 pm to SCLibertarian
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Then let's deport every individual who ever worked for the CIA.
Well, when you pass an amendment calling for this I will be on board.
This amendment was specifically targeted to Nazi's who participated in the genocide. Things like fighting on the frontlines wasn't included.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:23 pm to fightin tigers
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Things like fighting on the frontlines wasn't included.
Of course it shouldn’t be included since people were literally forced into the service. It was not required that you go and gas Jews every other day.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:25 pm to Fat and Happy
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This is fricking BS
You username is Fat and Happy. You're a pathetic fat frick and part of the pussification of America. HE was a NAZI. End of story.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:32 pm to John88
It’s just weird how the Japanese seem to get a pass for WWII era atrocities. It’s like all is forgiven for them. I don’t have an anti-Japanese axe to grind, just bewildered by the apparent disparity.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 3:36 pm to Havoc
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It’s just weird how the Japanese seem to get a pass for WWII era atrocities.
Look who the Japanese persecuted and look who the Germans persecuted. You've found your answer. Besides this, I'd make the argument the argument that the Soviets were objectively more evil than the Nazis and the Japanese, and they were our allies.
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