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Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:38 pm to chRxis
His hands are arguably around his waistband immediately prior to the shots, although I’m open to the idea that other angles could show this is more or less viable as a triggering movement(s). If the firing officer made the weapon call out or knew the weapon’s placement wasn’t close to the area where his hands were moving, it may be a more difficult claim. But from video i’ve seen, the idea that that the officer who opened fire heard the call, didn’t know the gun was secured and was behind Pretti with Pretti’s hands moving around appendix, 12 or 3, that strikes me as viable and credible based on the video.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:46 pm to Pettifogger
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His hands are arguably around his waistband immediately prior to the shots
by that time, he is already disarmed... the agent that has the firearm, has enough time to move out of the line of fire before the shots start... again, if you have video that doesn't show this, i'd be open to seeing it...
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although I’m open to the idea that other angles could show this is more or less viable as a triggering movement(s).
agreed
quote:it was 2 officers that fired... and i agree it's possible that that they didn't see that he was disarmed, but is that what is taught? hear "gun" and just start shooting? and further more, they shot him 10 times, with a pretty audible short pause between the first few shots that likely killed him... so why the extra shots, as it was clear he had stopped moving already...
the idea that that the officer who opened fire heard the call, didn’t know the gun was secured and was behind Pretti with Pretti’s hands moving around appendix, 12 or 3, that strikes me as viable and credible based on the video.
and again, please, understand i'm not trying to antagonize anyone... it's just an incredibly frustrating situation, and to see where we are as a country... it's just sad, and i think we all have questions we'd like answered, but we don't seem to be getting good or trustworthy answers
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:47 pm to Stidham8
from Michael Brown to Alton Sterling to George Floyd to Renee Good to Alex Pretti...
there is a reason why the left has to search in the dumpsters and the gutters in order to find their "Martyred heroes" because they're all pieces of shite.
there is a reason why the left has to search in the dumpsters and the gutters in order to find their "Martyred heroes" because they're all pieces of shite.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:49 pm to chRxis
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no, damn near every dude i know would help protect a woman who was in harm's way... maybe we were raised correctly, i dunno... or maybe you are just a baby back bitch, i dunno...
Wow a real keyboard warrior…
Unless every dude you know is a leftist insurrectionist wanting to obstruct the enforcement of federal immigration laws and threaten ICE and supporters you are full of shite. I would support more of these fricks getting arrested and wish Minneapolis and Minnesota would enforce local and state laws on them when they break them. I would definitely not go help some of these leftist lunatic females in this mob from their getting there due consequences from law enforcement.
I am also not interfering in federal law enforcement in the first place, and anyone who does so and starts to be arrested falls under that enforcement as well. No one in these leftist mobs are innocent bystanders just peacefully observing and staying out of the way while recording. They are coordinated, organized, funded, trained, and have violent tendencies along with some having violent fantasies about harming their political opposition.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:51 pm to ZIGG
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from Michael Brown to Alton Sterling to George Floyd to Renee Good to Alex Pretti...
there is a reason why the left has to search in the dumpsters and the gutters in order to find their "Martyred heroes" because they're all pieces of shite.
i guess the frustrating part of all these lives lost, that become political footballs, and i'd include those on the right like Kirk, and the assassination attempts on Trump, is the absolute dehumanization of the persons that have been killed.... how did we get here? regardless of where you are politically, how did we get to a place where have such little value for other humans that we can just refer to them as "pieces of shite"? what are we doing?
Posted on 1/28/26 at 8:51 pm to chRxis
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but is that what is taught? hear "gun" and just start shooting?
They heard "gun" from another officer
They saw commie agitator reach for his waistline where his gun was (CBP agent had removed it)
They heard a gun discharge (gun went off in CBP agents possession for unknown reasons)
They eliminated perceived threat.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:01 pm to chRxis
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i guess the frustrating part of all these lives lost, that become political footballs, and i'd include those on the right like Kirk, and the assassination attempts on Trump, is the absolute dehumanization of the persons that have been killed....
You're missing quite a distinction.
No one dehumanized Travon, Floyd, Good, Pretti, Sterling, etc... prior to their deaths. "Dehumanization" did not cause nor contribute to their deaths.
Kirk and Trump were regularly and widely dehumanized BEFORE their targeting and WERE so targeted due to their dehumanization.
There's a bit of a difference there.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:01 pm to dallastigers
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Wow a real keyboard warrior…
no, i'm not...
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Unless every dude you know is a leftist insurrectionist wanting to obstruct the enforcement of federal immigration laws and threaten ICE and supporters you are full of shite..
no, most of them are good ol' country boys or coonasses... but we know that if a woman is in trouble and we can may be do something about it, we likely would... i'm sorry you don't feel the same way
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I would support more of these fricks getting arrested and wish Minneapolis and Minnesota would enforce local and state laws on them when they break them.
i agree, when they break the law... like the clear vandalizism of the ICE vehicle that Pretti did by kicking it, as we saw in the video from today... fully support him being arrested in that situation... FULLY
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I would definitely not go help some of these leftist lunatic females in this mob from their getting there due consequences from law enforcement
again, missing the point b/c you can't see past the politics... but you don't protect women, and that's cool... it's a choice, i guess
quote:interesting... how do you view the Jan. 6th events? was everything above board there? personally, i agree with you... anyone directly interferring with federal LEO should be arrested, regardless of political affiliations... what good for one, is good for both...
I am also not interfering in federal law enforcement in the first place, and anyone who does so and starts to be arrested falls under that enforcement as well. No one in these leftist mobs are innocent bystanders just peacefully observing and staying out of the way while recording.
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They are coordinated, organized, funded, trained, and have violent tendencies along with some having violent fantasies about harming their political opposition.
maybe so... the fringe left is just as crazy as the fringe right, IMO... neither party is innocent, IMO.... but sure, if it helps you out, yes there are some extremist on the left that do bad shite...
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:03 pm to Turbeauxdog
I cannot see a reach. It’s too grainy for me. I hear the gun call and a quick reaction after the first shot. I’m not convinced the discharge didn’t happen. But I’m skeptical that it’s not in the initial report. The gun is known to discharge without touching the trigger. There’s a pressure point on the slide.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:05 pm to SallysHuman
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There's a bit of a difference there.
in the grand scheme of things, and removing politics for a minute, no there's not... lives were lost, and that's terrible... regardless of what you think of Kirk, and i damn near disagreed with EVERYTHING he said, it's incredibly sad what happened to him... that should have never happened... he was someone's son... someone's husband, father, cousin, etc... same with Pretti... same with Goode, etc....
sometimes, we really need to take a break from the politics, and see the world through a human lens rather than a political one...
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:07 pm to Turbeauxdog
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(gun went off in CBP agents possession for unknown reasons)
no, it didn't, even according to the CBP's own report...
so please, stop with this lie... let's stick to the facts, which this entire "misfire" is not one of
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:08 pm to chRxis
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sometimes, we really need to take a break from the politics, and see the world through a human lens rather than a political one...
Sadly majority of the people can’t do this
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:10 pm to chRxis
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in the grand scheme of things, and removing politics for a minute, no there's not...
Yes, there is.
Kirk and Trump being dehumanized in life is what led to them being targeted for death.
The same cannot be said for the other examples.
That is a VERY big difference.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:11 pm to chRxis
There was a report in the NYPost that a source said it happened. It was posted earlier. So it’s not made up completely. I would expect it in an initial report. But not everything will be in that report either.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:12 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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Sadly majority of the people can’t do this
not anymore, it seems... i mean, this is not the America i grew up in.... this is not the America our fore fathers fought and died for... we are not the shining light on the hill anymore... and all we can talk about is "well, this party did this" and "yeah, but this party did that"... if fricking sad, bruh....
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:13 pm to chRxis
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maybe so... the fringe left is just as crazy as the fringe right, IMO.
The fringe left isn't fringe it's a huge cohort of the left wing. The fringe right is 30000 goypers in their mom's basement.
Don't be a "both sides" guy, they are morons.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:15 pm to SallysHuman
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Yes, there is.
Kirk and Trump being dehumanized in life is what led to them being targeted for death.
The same cannot be said for the other examples.
That is a VERY big difference.
again, regardless, these are human beings that had families, coworkers, kids, etc... it breaks my heart that Kirk died... absolutely breaks my fricking heart... just as it does Floyd.... just as it does ANY time that this stupid political shite is either a cause or an effect of someone being killed...
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:15 pm to Turbeauxdog
I absolutely love how the libs go soft when their house of cards fall. They are so philosophical when their bullshite fails.
Posted on 1/28/26 at 9:17 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Don't be a "both sides" guy,
sorry, but it is... you don't agree, and that's cool, you have your own opinion, i respect that...
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