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Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:27 am to mike4lsu
How much time elapsed from the time he was disarmed and when he was shot?
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:28 am to N2cars
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How much time elapsed from the time he was disarmed and when he was shot?
the rest of his life
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:31 am to mike4lsu
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Hate to say it but it but when the victim and the perpetrator know each other and have had a confrontation, a unscrupulous procecutor can argue first degree murder. The grounds are premeditation. Also in the video it is clear that the victim was disarmed before being shot. That negates imminent threat. The ICE agents could be charged with murder. Luckily this is a federal case, and we have a rational DOJ. Trump should grant them a provisional pardon...like President Nixon got.
What in the frick are you talking about
The dude turned out to be a piece of shite
The ICE agents shouldn’t have shot him
shite happens though
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:36 am to Sun God
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out how he got to premeditated murder.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:38 am to N2cars
I know
He’s unintelligent
He’s unintelligent
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a unscrupulous procecutor can argue first degree murder
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 11:39 am
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:40 am to Cosmo
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Ah so its the taillight’s fault that it broke
No, Pretti's fault, but who gives a frick. He fricked around and found out.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:42 am to Cosmo
Do we have any board moderates still defending this psycho?
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:50 am to The Boat
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Do we have any board moderates still defending this psycho?
This video has nothing to do with him not being a theat of death of great bodily harm to the officers weeks later....
Only a simpleton would think that's how law enforcement works
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 11:53 am
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:55 am to mike4lsu
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Also in the video it is clear that the victim was disarmed before being shot. That negates imminent threat.
le sigh
Might want to look into why he was reaching to an empty holster. Perhaps he had another gun. Perhaps he had a rocket launcher.
Perps are always threats even after being detained....of which he was not when he was shot.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 11:58 am to idlewatcher
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was reaching to an empty holster
Anyone that repeats this using a still image from after he was already shot can be ignored completely.
He wasnt reaching for anything when he was shot. He was cradled on the ground.
Hes down in a cradle position when he is shot at 1:01, rises up at 1:02 (some have used this moment to way he was reaching for his waist), and is dead at 1:03
You cant use an action AFTER he was shot to justify a shooting
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:02 pm to The Boat
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Do we have any board moderates still defending this psycho?
Mmmmcreampie has disappeared
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:02 pm to sgallo3
Everyone saying he was disarmed, and then he was shot, are accurate.
But the elapsed time between those two events are what is important, and make a huge impact on anyone that has common sense.
Per WSJ frame by frame analysis, it is milliseconds.
How fast is everyone's reaction time?
But the elapsed time between those two events are what is important, and make a huge impact on anyone that has common sense.
Per WSJ frame by frame analysis, it is milliseconds.
How fast is everyone's reaction time?
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:07 pm to N2cars
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Everyone saying he was disarmed, and then he was shot, are accurate.
But the elapsed time between those two events are what is important, and make a huge impact on anyone that has common sense.
Per WSJ frame by frame analysis, it is milliseconds.
How fast is everyone's reaction time?
Even if he was still armed it would require him attempting to use the weapon to justify him being shot, so I dont see the time between him being disarmed and when he was shot as important. Even if he was still armed when shot, the result wouldve been the same because he wasn't attempting to use the gun before he was shot so there was no imminent threat from his gun.
A legal "imminent threat" is an immediate, unavoidable danger that is about to happen, requiring prompt action for self-defense or to prevent serious harm, not a speculative future risk, often judged by the "totality of the circumstances" for reasonableness, such as a weapon being brandished or imminent collapse of dangerous structures. It signifies a present danger that must be confronted instantly, justifying force or urgent intervention.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:10 pm to sgallo3
The world is a better place with this freak dead.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:15 pm to The Boat
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The world is a better place with this freak dead.
You can debate that all you want. Has no bearing on how law enforcement are required to perform their job
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:16 pm to Turbeauxdog
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I completely disagree.
and that's cool... we see it differently
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What used to be a unifying bipartisan issue has been turned on its head by insane leftists.
and i can see where you think that, and yes, the response has been a bit crazy... however, i think the method and the way they are so boisterous with how they are going about things, trying to be demeaning and cruel, to prove a point, i think the right is crazy for that... again, both deserve their share of blame for where we are now...
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The new progressive version if democrats, insanity.
i'm not going to disagree... i agree, far left is crazy, and one of the biggest reason i'd never join the Democratic party... ever
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It's not always reasonable to be in the middle of an issue politically. This is one of those times
i disagree, but as i sad before, it's all good... i respect your point of view and sharing it with civility... very rare around these parts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:19 pm to Classy Doge
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ou'll find the frick out soyboy
simmer down, chief... you don't know me, so don't act like you do...
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:24 pm to dallastigers
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Sticking to the facts the words I read in the report to congress did not include anything about the gun going off accidentally, but the words in the report to Congress also did not explicitly state that the gun did not go off.
seems like a VERY important element, that they would 100% disclose, if it had happened... and there would be gun powder residue on the agent that it misfired on... he was not one of the 2 that shot Pretti, so if he has residue, it's Pretti's gun misfire... if not, it didn't... guess we can wait for the definitive proof, but if it happened, it would be CRUCIAL to the report to report that... but it's not in the report...
Posted on 1/29/26 at 12:28 pm to dallastigers
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I see the politics
oh, that's VERY WELL established...
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a communist lunatic get away with breaking the law.
why demean him when you don't truly know this guy? it was wrong when the left was mischaracterized Kirk, and it's wrong to do it Pretti...
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. Your fake chivalry is you just trying to justify this guy’s actions.
no, it's just my opinion on what he may have been thinking in that split second... i'm not justifying anything... you are projecting
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