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Posted on 3/10/23 at 9:35 am to
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6564 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 9:35 am to
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What would Dave portnoy have rated it?


Portnoy hates everything. Kinda like Mikey from the Life Cereal commercials.
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4905 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 10:44 am to
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A cash only business is a red flag for - engages in fraudulent practices. It even invites fraud by the employees. Food service employees are notorious for stealing from their employer and each other. Credit cards reduce that invitation for easy theft. Credit cards also make running a business easier because every transaction can be more easily recorded.



Yeah you’re an auditor for the IRS imagine? Frick off. This is America. If a business wants to be all cash, they should. Do you know how much credit card fees eat into a business as well? Lots of fraudulent businesses that aren’t all cash. You’re an idiot who’s never owned a business before.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7668 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:23 am to
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This is America. If a business wants to be all cash, they should

Look how that turned out. Linda's in Watson is charging 4% on EBTs to offset credit card costs. Instead of raising their prices like a normal business they are actively taking it out on customers.

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You’re an idiot who’s never owned a business before.


Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17169 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:54 am to
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Surprised to learn such a restaurant in that area was still existing as recently as 2022.


What? Superior Grill is like one block away and prints money.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
55025 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 11:56 am to
I heard City Group - Hightower had interest, not sure at that price though.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16249 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 12:38 pm to
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If a business wants to be all cash, they should.

Of course they can do what they want. How did that work out for them?

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Do you know how much credit card fees eat into a business as well?
People who actually own businesses pass along the cost to the customer Einstein. They do it, because it would be stupid to turn down a transaction. Customers consent to the asking price which includes the transaction cost. That’s the nature of free market transactions.

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Having cashless society is what the liberal gov wants

I’m re-quoting this here to illustrate your hypocrisy and/or retardation. Wanna know what else your liberal overlords want? They want you to believe corporations do not pass along corporate taxes to their customers who simply pay higher prices. Can you see the flawed reasoning? Do businesses pass along costs to customers or not? Maybe next semester you should take a course in basic economics kid. It doesn’t mean you’ll understand it when you become an adult, but it is a step in the right direction.


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Lots of fraudulent businesses that aren’t all cash.

No shite.

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You’re an idiot who’s never owned a business before.

This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 12:50 pm
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4905 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 1:02 pm to
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That’s the nature of free market transactions.


Yeah exactly stop your bitching about it being cash only and let them do their own free market transactions if a business wants to be cash free.

Posted by Shut Up Mulllet
Member since Apr 2021
990 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 1:15 pm to
Me and my ole man would do a little day drinking in the place. Eat a little pizza before we power drink at the old Baton Rouge bars.
I think it’s just nostalgia for Baton Rouge folks. Pizza was decent. The bathroom tripped me out. I’m not a big dude and had to turn sideways to get in that mug.
Probably can’t even pass code anymore.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 1:20 pm to
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Yeah you’re an auditor for the IRS imagine? Frick off. This is America. If a business wants to be all cash, they should. Do you know how much credit card fees eat into a business as well? Lots of fraudulent businesses that aren’t all cash. You’re an idiot who’s never owned a business before.


There's a tool warehouse sort of place around here that accepts only cash or good check per their full page ad.

Thought that was pretty damn unusual these days.

Name brand tools as well. Not the shitty stuff.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19097 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 1:34 pm to
I’m late to the thread but I’m not sorry to see Fleur de Lis go. They acted like it was some massive burden to give them your business, and without people’s nostalgia, they would be the worst pizza joint in the city of Baton Rouge.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55496 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:27 pm to
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The property was recently listed at an asking price of $4.5 million


Posted by The Godfather
Surrounded by Assholes
Member since Mar 2005
42505 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:46 pm to
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r0cky1




you seem like a stable individual
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16249 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Yeah exactly stop your bitching about it being cash only and let them do their own free market transactions if a business wants to be cash free.

You’re avoiding the issue for some reason. No one else is questioning their freedom to make stupid decisions. We are pointing out the utter stupidity of that decision.

How’s that going to work out with buyers who have the capital to fork over that kind of money for a business like this? They closed because they failed to maintain their own business model and failed to adapt to the change in consumer preferences. People could go somewhere else for shitty pizza and be treated better. People could go somewhere else and use credit cards for shitty pizza. People could go somewhere else to eat shitty pizza in an environment where they were not surrounded by filth and mildew.

Do you think someone savvy enough to be an investor of that magnitude will be able to properly value a shitty cash only business?

The proper value of that closed business is the value of the land the building sits on, and the value of the assets inside. The business model and recipes are worth shite. You can tell by the comments that the only people hoping it reopens are likely elderly people, those who don’t give a shite about food quality, and those who can’t let go of nostalgic memories from a bygone era. It had its day. That day is over.

And neither Marcus Lemonis nor Tillman Fertitta will be buying shite businesses.
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49052 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 4:00 pm to
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Portnoy hates everything. Kinda like Mikey from the Life Cereal commercials.



Uh. He came to Baton Rouge and rated Red Zeppelin pretty good.
He absolutely LOVED the atmosphere.
Youtube of Portnoy rating Red Zeppelin
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89931 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 4:16 pm to
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LaFonda's was a place with average Mexican food (decent for BR) and a steady crowd of day drinkers. It had strong arse drinks that convinced average looking married people it was a good idea to get a room at the Ten Flags Inn and screw around with each other. It had some epic Friday afternoon happy hours in the '80s as well.




wow, NAILED IT
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89931 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 4:18 pm to
i lived in BTR from 90-95, went to FDL a few times to get a pizza to go. Those pics ae exactly what that place looked like back then, hasnt changed or been cleaned in 30 years
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5050 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 4:24 pm to
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Uh. He came to Baton Rouge and rated Red Zeppelin pretty good.
He absolutely LOVED the atmosphere.
Youtube of Portnoy rating Red Zeppelin



My favorite pizza in BR
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
6564 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 4:40 pm to
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Uh. He came to Baton Rouge and rated Red Zeppelin pretty good.
He absolutely LOVED the atmosphere.
Youtube of Portnoy rating Red Zeppelin



Not really.

The whole reason I said Portnoy doesn't like anything (a bit of exaggeration on my part, because this is the OT after all) is because of the Red Zeppelin review. I like Red Zeppelin a lot, and he gave it a mere 6.8.

In this review of Ian's in Milwaukee, he gave them a 6.9, and said it was "Decent with a D" at the 2:30 mark. LINK

Not a great review, IMO. I would say 6.8 is a bit less stellar than a 6.9 which makes the Red Zeppelin review not "pretty good" but less than decent.
I think Red Zeppelin deserves better.

Dave's pizza reviews are interesting to watch, but I think he missed on that particular one.
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 4:44 pm
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4905 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 6:30 pm to
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You’re avoiding the issue for some reason. No one else is questioning their freedom to make stupid decisions. We are pointing out the utter stupidity of that decision.


I said this place sucks in my first post, but I support businesses that are cash only? Fleur de Lis Pizza not surviving is because of its bad pizza. There are plenty of cash only restaurants that do great but food isn’t bad. Being a cash only business shouldn’t be frowned upon, it’s idiotic and saves money for everyone. No shite a savvy investor isn’t buying a cash only business.

Keep watching shark tank and typing novels. You’re a moron.
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 6:36 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10198 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 9:20 pm to
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Do you know how much credit card fees eat into a business as well?


Credit cards also helped add on sales, buying more expensive items than planned, and then with restaurants still tip well even after spending more than planned. End of 20th century many people were already avoiding gas stations without ability to take cards at pump and avoiding other places that didn’t take credit cards.

Have credit card fees increased a lot in recent years (per transaction not total) to make transactions unprofitable?

Or has the ratio of cash sales decreased to a point that there are less cash transactions to under report for some and have also lowered expenses handling cash far below what used to be the norm that shifting some sales to cash doesn’t increase costs of handling more cash that much?

Years ago when I worked in retail (corporation) that could have significant cash transactions at times handling cash had a large expense from training, labor for opening and closing registers, labor for final closing, alarmed safe to hold deposit until next morning’s transport, expense for armored deposit transport, employee theft, and counterfeit issues. Credit Cards were very simple comparatively. Even some of bigger labor and storage expenses with credit cards started to minimize with signature capture.

Of course there could be charge backs, but cash had its issues and expenses when handled a lot. Handling a lot of cash was still the key as it’s expense was then still relatively high and not out of whack with card expenses especially considering benefit of increased sales they helped bring in.


Also, Restaurants and servers definitely under report cash tips. I also knew of some that had an extra register to record some cash business that would not get reported to franchise corporation or various tax entities. It’s not just restaurant type businesses or about credit card fees for some pushing cash use. That has to play a part for some of this as cash usage has decreased, but some are running off business which doesn’t make sense and is very short term thinking unless these businesses are losing money with each credit card transaction.

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