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re: What do you think should happen in this case ?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 3:13 pm to Darth_Vader
Posted on 10/5/23 at 3:13 pm to Darth_Vader
quote:Nah, it was two Frenchmen in Monty Python's play, Spamalot, who were going to be farted towards.
You’re confusing French law with Canadian law.
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Posted on 10/5/23 at 3:20 pm to Baylor
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The antiques dealer initially offered to settle out of court by paying the couple €300,000 euros, or about $315,000, for the mask but they were not able to reach an agreement because of the opposition of the couple’s children, according to court documents.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 4:11 pm to justaniceguy
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Personally the guy who doesn’t help the couple in this instance is not somebody I would want to be friends with
Does the fact that he did offer and they told him to go frick himself change your opinion of him? They want it all, despite the fact that it was a deal agreed upon by both seller and buyer.
This post was edited on 10/5/23 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 10/5/23 at 7:37 pm to LegendInMyMind
What was his offer?
Posted on 10/5/23 at 7:38 pm to Corinthians420
Ok yea that’s pretty ridiculous
Posted on 10/5/23 at 8:30 pm to justaniceguy
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What was his offer?
Over 300,000 dollars.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 10:26 pm to LegendInMyMind
I didn’t see that offer made and I’d agree that’s a fair offer. Unless of course there is other deception shown by the dealer which would have altered the deal had it been known by the sellers.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 11:00 pm to Baylor
quote:My only hesitation with this, is that if the dealer was also the appraiser, which seems within the realm of possibility given the quoted text and the lack of additional info, and if he knowingly provided a false estimate, that is clearly unethical.
they decided to sell the mask to a local antiques dealer, who agreed to buy the mask for €150, or about $157, in September 2021.
quote:On the other hand, these folks did zero of the kind of due diligence that most people would do with a family heirloom that has a higher than average chance of being worth good money.
The object was brought back from Gabon by the husband’s grandfather, who had been a colonial governer in Africa in the early 20th century.
I'd buy them a 3 day Carnival cruise and a $50 gift certificate to the British equivalent of Morrison's Cafeteria and call it a day.
Posted on 10/5/23 at 11:03 pm to Baylor
Is it any different than trading in a used car and they give you 5k more that it is worth because you didn’t tell them something was wrong?
Posted on 10/8/23 at 6:43 pm to soccerfüt
I have a few pieces of gold jewelry, mainly a ladies' ring and a diamond tennis bracelet plus some random individual coins, none appear to be gold, and a few proof sets, all from my deceased father.
Any gold/coin places in Baton Rouge you could point me to so I can liquidate these at a fair price?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Any gold/coin places in Baton Rouge you could point me to so I can liquidate these at a fair price?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
Posted on 10/8/23 at 6:57 pm to northshorebamaman
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My only hesitation with this, is that if the dealer was also the appraiser, which seems within the realm of possibility given the quoted text and the lack of additional info, and if he knowingly provided a false estimate, that is clearly unethical.
I made that point right away. It isn't just unethical, but illegal in some places.
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On the other hand, these folks did zero of the kind of due diligence that most people would do with a family heirloom that has a higher than average chance of being worth good money.
They had enough information regarding provenance and history to know that it had potential real value. That article stated as much. It wasn't just a piece that someone's grandad stuck in a box sixty years ago only to be rediscovered by someone who knew nothing about it. The family told the story of where it came from. It took effort to ignore the possible value it could have had.
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I'd buy them a 3 day Carnival cruise and a $50 gift certificate to the British equivalent of Morrison's Cafeteria and call it a day.
Assuming the first part of this reply isn't the case, that the guy acted as appraiser and buyer, I wouldn't give them a dime. He's already offered them over $300k, they declined the offer and are trying to get it all. If I won the lawsuit I would get really petty and countersue for damages in the amount of $157.
Posted on 10/8/23 at 6:57 pm to Baylor
After reading the article the antique dealer received some pretty low ball estimates of its value. He sought out an expert on the mask and the auction house only estimates it at 300,000 euros. So it seems to me the guy took a chance on the item and it payed off.
Posted on 12/20/23 at 2:39 pm to highcotton2
A French appeals court has ruled that the couple isn't owed any money.
Yahoo
So, the a-hole greedy kids who couldn't be bothered to help their elderly parents until there was money lost, and who rejected the $300k offer the buyer made will wind up getting nothing.
Yahoo
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A French couple who sold an “extremely rare” African mask for €150, only to find out it was worth millions, saw their motion to cancel the original sale rejected by a court in the south of France.
The couple, who are in their 80s and retired, argued there had been an “authentication error” and that the mask’s buyer, a small town second-hand dealer, knew how much the object was really worth when he bought it in 2021.
But the court rejected their claims, saying the couple hadn’t made any attempt to get the mask valued before selling it.
"Their negligence and carelessness characterise the inexcusable nature of their error. Therefore, their request to cancel the sale on this basis is dismissed," the judges said in their decision.
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The court also ruled that the antiquities dealer, who is not an expert in African art, did not deceive them on the price, and that the couple was not owed any money.
As proof of his honesty, the dealer had initially offered to pay the couple the value of €300,000, the mask’s starting price at auction. But the couple’s children refused and chose to sue the dealer for the full amount instead.
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The court also rejected a second motion from Gabon’s government to cancel the sale and return the mask to its country of origin, saying there wasn’t sufficient information about how the mask ended up in France in the first place to rule in their favour.
So, the a-hole greedy kids who couldn't be bothered to help their elderly parents until there was money lost, and who rejected the $300k offer the buyer made will wind up getting nothing.
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