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Posted on 2/12/15 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 4:58 pm to
I don't really care.

I don't give a shite which bathroom they use, I don't care how they identify, and if I make a mistake by calling them by the wrong gender, I apologize and get on with my life.

I'm just done caring about all the little crap like this out in the world.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 4:59 pm to
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you really think someone would choose to be rejected by society, beaten up, abused by police and the butt of jokes?

Yeah, they don't choose this. They believe they were born the wrong sex, they go through inordinate amount of pain and suffering due to this. There is no choice involved in this.


There is certainly a choice to decide to live as the opposite sex, which is probably where the rejection, abuse and violence part comes in.

That doesn't mean I don't have sympathy for their plight, but I do have to wonder where this ends.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 4:59 pm to
Mentally ill. Need haldol.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:00 pm to
I think gender confusion is a psychological disorder, just as anorexia and schizophrenia ar psychological disorders. The big problem is that there doesn't seem to be any type of method to successfully cure this mental illness.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:01 pm to
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People are becoming more accepting of trans people these days,

did you read this thread? Did you see all the insults hurled at them.

Yeah, its gotten better but they are still the butt of jokes, and routinely beaten up, and rejected by society, often times family.

Sure they got internet friends, which from what I can see is more than you can say.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:01 pm to
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I work at a CBS affiliate and its all they are talking about on the morning news shows and "The Talk", Bruce Jenner. And because of this they have us doing stories on local trans people.



Are you mentally ill? Serious question, because it seems like you have issues at all 239058930580329850 jobs you've posted about in the last year.
Posted by N2cars
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:02 pm to
Pity.



In the overwhelmingly majority of cases, they remain unhappy.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:03 pm to
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That doesn't mean I don't have sympathy for their plight, but I do have to wonder where this ends.


its not going to end anywhere, other than people not beating the shite out of them. And maybe fewer parents disowning them.

Its such a small part of the population, it has very little impact on most people's lives. The transrights movement is going to go nowhere, its just noise.

And there is no choice involved. Can you imagine that you are so miserable you would rather lose everything and live as the sex you identify with? Seriously?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:04 pm to
They're fricked in the head.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:04 pm to
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Can you imagine that you are so miserable you would rather lose everything and live as the sex you identify with? Seriously?


You have a lot of people that have suffered from serious depression in this thread, so I'm pretty sure some people can imagine misery.
Posted by BlackleafBaller
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:06 pm to
I have no problem with them doing so, as it is obviously a personal choice. BUT they should identify themselves as having done so to anyone they date in the future. Spent 3 years of my life fricking a girl who formerly went by Jeff and had a bigger dick than me. I felt so betrayed, but got one last quicky in before I broke it off for good so it wasn't a total loss.
Posted by MSMHater
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:08 pm to
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ts not going to end anywhere, other than people not beating the shite out of them. And maybe fewer parents disowning them.

Its such a small part of the population, it has very little impact on most people's lives. The transrights movement is going to go nowhere, its just noise.

And there is no choice involved. Can you imagine that you are so miserable you would rather lose everything and live as the sex you identify with? Seriously?


First, you're making pretty broad claims about abuse of trans people which, while I don't doubt occurs to some extent, is far from accepted as routine.

Second, maybe you're correct about the rights movement, it's a small community with likely little innate value to outsiders. We'll see, although people are always looking for a cause du jour, especially generations that grew up fighting for something and are unaccustomed to life without a "struggle."

Last, there is obviously choice involved. While I do not believe that male/female characteristics are predominately learned rather than innate, I do think there is an obvious choice involved for people to start living as the opposite sex.
Posted by Tigerwaffe
Orlando
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:11 pm to
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-Betas who are threatened by masculinity because they know they can't compete in the masculinity arena when it comes to women. Hence white knighting, "I am a good guy", being an SJW, etc.

-Gays who will feel better or less guilty about being gay and dating men, or taking it up the arse from men, if they become a woman

Your theories are to say the least.
Posted by CadesCove
Mounting the Woman
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

What is your honest opinion about transgender people?


"Have you found Jesus, Gump?"
"No, I didn't know I was supposed to be looking for him, Lt Dan."
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:15 pm to
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First, you're making pretty broad claims about abuse of trans people which, while I don't doubt occurs to some extent, is far from accepted as routine.


Not really.
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Transgender women were 4 times more likely to experience police violence compared to overall survivors, and 6 times as likely to experience physical violence when interacting with the police compared to overall survivors. - See more at: LINK

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Almost three-quarters (72%) of homicide victims were transgender women, and more than two-thirds (67%) of homicide victims were transgender women of color - See more at: LINK


LINK

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Of those who expressed a transgender identity or gender non-conformity while in grades K-12…
o 78%  experienced harassment  

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Second, maybe you're correct about the rights movement, it's a small community with likely little innate value to outsiders. We'll see, although people are always looking for a cause du jour, especially generations that grew up fighting for something and are unaccustomed to life without a "struggle."


Yeah, they make a lot of noise but the issues they push such as letting children decide their own gender isn't going to go anywhere b.c its just unrealistic.

It could pop up, but after gay rights its going to be animal rights as the next cause.
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Last, there is obviously choice involved. While I do not believe that male/female characteristics are predominately learned rather than innate, I do think there is an obvious choice involved for people to start living as the opposite sex.


Well there is a point in time where they determine that the misery they feel by not expressing their true self is worse than the harassment they will feel at the hands of society. But I would hardly call it a choice.

Posted by Amazing Moves
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:18 pm to
I think LSU and Texas fans should be mocked. Not celebrated. We don't need to encourage this rampant behavior from both campuses.
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
17119 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:19 pm to
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Spent 3 years of my life fricking a girl who formerly went by Jeff and had a bigger dick than me.


I have a raging boner just imagining.....
Posted by AFtigerFan
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
3702 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:21 pm to
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Simple! They have something wrong in their heads.


I agree with this 100%.

I'd also like to know what the suicide rate is for gays when compared to straight people. It seems like most of the ones I know have battled depression throughout their lives.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86934 posts
Posted on 2/12/15 at 5:21 pm to
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Not really.



Like I said, at increased risk for abuse? Probably. I have no reason to think this is a daily occurrence for most people in that scenario, however.

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Well there is a point in time where they determine that the misery they feel by not expressing their true self is worse than the harassment they will feel at the hands of society. But I would hardly call it a choice.



I would. Their "true self" is someone who feels male/female but resides in the opposite body. That's who they actually are. I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to function as the opposite or have surgery, but it strikes me as a pretty big contradiction within the LGBT community to have this whole "how I was made" angle with a small part saying "I was made wrong"
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