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re: Why aren't family court lawyers win/loss records public information?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:37 am to meauxjeaux2
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:37 am to meauxjeaux2
How do you measure a win vs a loss?
Example:
Man does not kill someone
DA brings murder charges
Defender gets him off on murder but he gets stuck with manslaughter
How do you score that?
Example:
Man does not kill someone
DA brings murder charges
Defender gets him off on murder but he gets stuck with manslaughter
How do you score that?
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:39 am to Swoopin
quote:i said he is a family court lawyer .
How do you measure a win vs a loss?
Example:
Man does not kill someone
DA brings murder charges
Defender gets him off on murder but he gets stuck with manslaughter
How do you score that?
I'm pretty sure it's easier to tag a win or a loss when it comes to family court outcomes.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:39 am to slackster
I've done pretty well for myself actually. Just bored this morning and find the question kind of laughable. Would you judge an accountant on how many of his clients declare bankruptcy? Some people specialize in more trying to fix difficult situations.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:42 am to VOLhalla
quote:well,,,, He's the one with the claim of a positive "win/loss"
find the question kind of laughable
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:46 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
i said he is a family court lawyer .
I'm pretty sure it's easier to tag a win or a loss when it comes to family court outcomes.
Relevant information to include in the OP, not a post at the bottom of the page.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:47 am to AUveritas
quote:
In the vast majority of cases, there are no winners or losers.
Maybe true for the parties. But the lawyers usually win.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:47 am to Swoopin
quote:absolutely. My bad. Thought you saw it.
Relevant information to include in the OP, not a post at the bottom of the page.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:48 am to VOLhalla
quote:
I've done pretty well for myself actually. Just bored this morning and find the question kind of laughable.
I understand, I wasn't serious with my comment.
quote:
Would you judge an accountant on how many of his clients declare bankruptcy? Some people specialize in more trying to fix difficult situations.
Completely agree. It is inherently difficult to determine who wins and who loses.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:49 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
I'm pretty sure it's easier to tag a win or a loss when it comes to family court outcomes.
Doubtful. Family law probably has more "split the baby" (pardon the pun) results than most areas of law.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 8:50 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:51 am to meauxjeaux2
At the firm of Dewey, Cheatam and Howe, we win no matter the outcome of the case, baw.
What do you call 10,000 attorneys at the bottom of the sea?
What do you call 10,000 attorneys at the bottom of the sea?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 8:58 am to meauxjeaux2
If your client, who in fact committed murder, gets convicted and sentenced to life in prison instead of getting the death penalty, is that a win or a loss? Wins and losses depend on expectations and perspective. A lawyer might consider any case he makes money from to be a win.
You can do a search for a lawyer's name on legal databases, but you have to pay for access to those databases, and then determine which cases were wins and losses based on your own criteria. It isn't an easy task.
If someone did assemble a list of lawyers and their wins and losses, how long do you think it would take before one of the lawyers sued to dispute the determination of wins and losses?
You can do a search for a lawyer's name on legal databases, but you have to pay for access to those databases, and then determine which cases were wins and losses based on your own criteria. It isn't an easy task.
If someone did assemble a list of lawyers and their wins and losses, how long do you think it would take before one of the lawyers sued to dispute the determination of wins and losses?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:09 am to Poodlebrain
Idk how far reaching this guy is but I've seen his commercials in GA for years, I'd be curious to know his record
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:44 am to WG_Dawg
Ha, when asked, I tell people I win the good cases. Can't control the variables in a case. Bad facts, bad client, unfavorable setting, etc. lawyers job is to do the best he or she can given the variables.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 9:45 am
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:51 am to meauxjeaux2
How would you define the terms? A defense lawyer with client caught on video could rightfully claim a "win" if his client got half the max sentence or life w/o parole instead of the death penalty, even though, ultimately, his client was convicted.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:53 am to WG_Dawg
Binder filed bankruptcy a couple of years ago, so either their success rate is very poor or they are poorly managed. Likely a combination of the two.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:54 am to meauxjeaux2
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Why aren't lawyers win/loss records public information?
The only time I've heard anyone talking about wins or losses it was prosecutors talking conviction rates. And even then... did you charge a 2nd degree murder and the guy was convicted of negligent homicide? So it never really makes sense to talk wins or losses. I just judge other lawyers by their cars.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:55 am to CadesCove
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violate every ethical standard in the book
since when has this been a problem for attnys?
Posted on 5/10/16 at 10:15 am to meauxjeaux2
quote:
I'm pretty sure it's easier to tag a win or a loss when it comes to family court outcomes.
really? like sole custody vs. joint custody vs. primary domiciliary parent vs. amt child support vs. amount spousal support vs. share of community property vs. reimbursements...
so many factors, all dependent on how terrible your client is vs. the opponent. Lawyers are not the most important factor there.
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:04 am to Mung
Many types of cases in family law obviously involve kids which leads to sealed files. This would make it impossible to calculate a win loss record for an attorney with any time spent in family law
Posted on 5/10/16 at 11:24 am to White Bear
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What do you call 10,000 attorneys at the bottom of the sea?
a good start
now frick you
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