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re: Winston Churchill died peacefully in his sleep 61 years ago today...
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:56 pm to TigerLord2020
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:56 pm to TigerLord2020
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Keep reading your Maxwell textbooks.
Look at the end results not the propaganda.
How many white Christians died on both sides to have the 3rd world take over now?
What is your position? That things would be better if Germany and Japan had won? That they somehow did win? Why do you think the Allies winning the war is the cause of our problems today? The vast majority of the dead from WW2 were communists, Nazis, and Asians, very few Christians by comparison.
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:57 pm to TigerLord2020
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The progressives who are not Christian and the pseudo Christians
Progressives have definitely done some damage in the culture wars the last several decades, I just don't know how you're relating it to the Allies winning WWII.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:59 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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George C Marshall basically had to put his foot down and tell Churchill the Americans are invading France. You can either cooperate or we're taking our ball and going home.
HA! Can you imagine? "Fine. YOU do it then! We're taking out ball and going home!" in 1944?)
Britain (Churchill and Monty) was seemingly and initially handed the greater hand in potential continental "glory" by the Yank overlords. When they failed to move the war theater along at a decent pace, our actors had to fulfill and supplant the original script.
Side-note: About 20 years ago I had an older customer who related her experience as a child in 1944 in a village in Belgium when was liberated by the Allies. Located on a main thoroughfare, shockingly BOTH Patton and Montgomery came through the same town at about the same general time-frame. The woman recalled how both the Brits and Yanks handed out chocolates ( even receiving a personal trinket from Patton himself.) Seems both Patton and Monty also were overtly soliciting "testimony" from the towns-people that they be "credited" for her village's official "liberation" ("WE LIBERATED YOU, RIGHT?!?")
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:05 pm to RandySavage
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That things would be better if Germany and Japan had won?
Japan was merely a tool to be manipulated to get the US to enter the war. 90% of Americans wanted to stay out of it until Pearl Harbor. If the warnings had been shared and those soldiers not sacrificed there for the progressive agenda then maybe it all plays out differently and we aren’t looking at extinction.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:10 pm to RandySavage
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Do you think we won WW2?
Who do you think won?
Maybe a more interesting question for TigerLord. Who do you believe to be the heroes of WW2?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:18 pm to RandySavage
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Progressives have definitely done some damage in the culture wars the last several decades,
“Culture wars” will be the least of our concerns. We are currently at war, but football and porn and other distractions keep the fat white MAGA Homer Simpson archetypes typing away on websites thinking that they are saving the world from idiot liberals. We are being invaded. Christianity is under fire worldwide. Can’t have a Christian march in England. Who is behind all the progressive movements in the world. I guess the white liberal nuts just have won their suicide pact with self hatred and mental illness.
What books were being burned again?
We are fricked my friend.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:22 pm to RandySavage
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What is your position? That things would be better if Germany and Japan had won? That they somehow did win? Why do you think the Allies winning the war is the cause of our problems today? The vast majority of the dead from WW2 were communists, Nazis, and Asians, very few Christians by comparison.
Best estimate (combined):
Roughly 40–45 million white Christians died in World War II
Breakdown:
• ~15 million soldiers
• ~25–30 million civilians
That is over half of all WWII deaths.
White Christians were the single largest demographic group to die in WWII.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:24 pm to BrodyDad
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Maybe a more interesting question for TigerLord. Who do you believe to be the heroes of WW2?
Easy answer. All of the Christians who died fighting for a cause that they believed at the time would prevent the current state of affairs we are in now.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:37 pm to TigerLord2020
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90% of Americans wanted to stay out of it until Pearl Harbor.
This is fake news. Go look at the polling being done by those who were in the business back in the day. While the vast majority of Americans had no desire to get involved when war first broke out in 1939, their tune was quickly changing by November 1941. Regardless of whether Pearl Harbor happened or not, the United States would have been in the war before the end of 1942.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:49 pm to RollTide1987
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This is fake news.
Thank you for your disclaimer before your post.
The fake news is that the majority of Americans did want to enter WW2 before Pearl Harbor.
The US citizens were more pro sending aid but not joining the battle until Pearl Harbor.
They were also being fed a narrative prior to that which of course would cause sympathy to the fight against the axis.
Side question for the conservatives on this topic. Do you believe that the news and entertainment industry are progressive and aimed at destroying Christian values. Do you trust the liberal media?
Those same folks in charge of those industries wrote your history books and shaped your current opinion of the war.
Christians were the largest group to die in WW2 and Christians are taken advantage of and vilified daily in current times. Why is that?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 1:58 pm to TigerLord2020
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The US citizens were more pro sending aid but not joining the battle until Pearl Harbor.
By April 1941, nearly 70% of Americans polled believed the U.S. should go to war if it was the only way to defeat Germany and Italy. By November of that same year, the same number of Americans believed it was more important to defeat Germany than it was for the U.S. to stay out of the war.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:05 pm to RollTide1987
Because of how the polling question was framed.
You are either being intellectually dishonest or really believe that you get untainted data from people with an agenda.
In the same period, different questions produced very different results:
• “Should the U.S. enter the war now?” ? ~20% yes
• “Should the U.S. declare war on Germany?” ? ~10–15% yes
• “Should the U.S. go to war if it’s the only way to win?” ? ~68% yes
So:
Same people. Very different answers.
The wording changed the outcome.
You are either being intellectually dishonest or really believe that you get untainted data from people with an agenda.
In the same period, different questions produced very different results:
• “Should the U.S. enter the war now?” ? ~20% yes
• “Should the U.S. declare war on Germany?” ? ~10–15% yes
• “Should the U.S. go to war if it’s the only way to win?” ? ~68% yes
So:
Same people. Very different answers.
The wording changed the outcome.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:32 pm to TigerLord2020
Indeed, the United States would not have entered the war in Europe in December 1941 if not for Germany's declaration of war. However, it is foolish to believe the U.S. would have remained neutral in the conflict for another year because the Germans were beginning to sink our merchant shipping en masse - much as they had done in the first four months of 1918. By the end of 1942, it is more probable than not that we would have been at war with Germany.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:39 pm to TigerLord2020
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Best estimate (combined):
Roughly 40–45 million white Christians died in World War II
Breakdown:
• ~15 million soldiers
• ~25–30 million civilians
That is over half of all WWII deaths.
White Christians were the single largest demographic group to die in WWII.
My friend, the only way those numbers come close to working is if you pretend almost every white person that died was a Christian. Communists and Nazis are not/were not Christians.
Like I said, I'm in full agreement with most of your points on the current state of affairs in the world. I don't understand how you equate them with the Allied victory 80 years ago.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:12 pm to RollTide1987
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Indeed, the United States would not have entered the war in Europe in December 1941 if not for Germany's declaration of war.
Uberblunder on Hitler’s part
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:19 pm to RandySavage
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My friend, the only way those numbers come close to working is if you pretend almost every white person that died was a Christian. Communists and Nazis are not/were not Christians.
This is where we disagree. The majority of Germans were Christians. History has distorted and manipulated this fact.
I agree with you that on the surface it does not appear so, but once you dig in deeper than what they fed us through the years.
World War II – Estimated Christian Deaths (Axis vs Allies)
Concise historical demographic estimate (military + civilian)
Axis Powers
Axis Countries Estimated Christian Deaths
Germany 6.6 – 8.5 million
Italy 0.45 – 0.50 million
Romania 0.30 – 0.50 million
Hungary 0.29 – 0.55 million
Finland 0.094 million
Croatia 0.27 – 0.32 million
Slovakia 0.063 million
Bulgaria 0.019 million
Axis Subtotal˜ 8.1 – 10.8 million
Allied Powers
Allied Countries / Regions Estimated Christian Deaths
Soviet Union (European regions) 17 – 22 million
Poland 5.0 – 5.4 million
Yugoslavia 0.7 – 1.2 million
Greece 0.29 – 0.58 million
France 0.57 million
United Kingdom 0.45 million
Netherlands 0.20 million
Belgium 0.084 million
Czechoslovakia 0.31 million
United States 0.405 million
Canada 0.045 million
Australia 0.040 million
New Zealand 0.012 million
South Africa 0.011 million
Allied Subtotal˜ 35 – 40 million
Grand Total Estimated Christian Deaths: ˜ 43 – 50 million worldwide
Notes: Values are based on national death totals combined with 1930s–1940s religious demographics.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:23 pm to TigerLord2020
Calling yourself a Christian and actually being one are very different. If you think Nazi and Comminists were mostly Christian Im not sure we will find much common ground.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:30 pm to TigerLord2020
It's normal that the further away we get from World War II, the less likely people are to be grateful, and the more likely they are to reimagine history and have a hot take on the internet just for the sake of drawing attention to themself.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:33 pm to RollTide1987
Winston Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty in WW1 and he cooked up a brilliant scheme to flank the germans by forcing a naval attack through the Dardanelles and landing an army there. It failed due to a single incompetent Captain.
Winston Churchill accepted blame and resigned. Then (and read this) he picked up a rifle and went to the trenches at the front. He was a politician, a poet, an author, an artist, a soldier, a statesman, a humorist, and an historian. He was a man in full. One of the few who occupied the pinnacle of Western Civilization.
ETA: I met his grandson. He’s a dick.
Winston Churchill accepted blame and resigned. Then (and read this) he picked up a rifle and went to the trenches at the front. He was a politician, a poet, an author, an artist, a soldier, a statesman, a humorist, and an historian. He was a man in full. One of the few who occupied the pinnacle of Western Civilization.
ETA: I met his grandson. He’s a dick.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:45 pm to Penrod
My family watched his funeral on live TV, one of the early satellite broadcasts.
What I remember the most was when they sang the "Battle Hymn of the Republic".
What I remember the most was when they sang the "Battle Hymn of the Republic".
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