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Posted on 2/11/26 at 6:52 am to mtb010
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Getting the itch to get me a long range rifle. I've gone on a hunt the past 2 years with Nilgai as my target species and the closest I've gotten is about 400 yards. Not going to take that shot with my .270 on that size animal.
OK so why not 300WM? Or 300PRC?.
Dont get a 7mm PRC if you think you're undergunned with a 270 at 400 yds. If a 7mm rem mag won't do it, neither will the PRC.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:07 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I thought your original post said 300 WSM? Changing it to .300 win mag
It did, I meant to put 300 win mag, not wsm.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 8:55 am to saintsfan1977
I see .300 PRC mentioned often in these threads.
Keep in mind that is a magnum length cartridge and requires a magnum length action (3.6" 375 h&h length) which is far less common than "standard" long actions that the other options use.
I think the PRC is a much more specialized cartridge. It's designed, as the name implies, for long range match shooting.
Unless you're trying to kill really big game (Nilgai counts) really far away (1000 yards + ) it wouldn't be on my short list of choices. I think the win mag is a vastly more practical choice for all regular hunters.
Keep in mind that is a magnum length cartridge and requires a magnum length action (3.6" 375 h&h length) which is far less common than "standard" long actions that the other options use.
I think the PRC is a much more specialized cartridge. It's designed, as the name implies, for long range match shooting.
Unless you're trying to kill really big game (Nilgai counts) really far away (1000 yards + ) it wouldn't be on my short list of choices. I think the win mag is a vastly more practical choice for all regular hunters.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:36 am to LoneStarTiger
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That's interesting. I know you'll lose some speed with the shorter barrel, but you should still be 2400+ fps at 100 yards, and with that bullet I'd think that's plenty to drive it through.
It was probably going closer to 2,700+ so I’m sure it had plenty of expansion, but I would have expected it to pass through also. I shot a whitetail buck at 15 yards (from 25’ up) with a 300 SAUM 165 grain core lokt that didn’t pass through, bullets do some weird things sometimes.
Rize, you got any pictures of the bullets you recovered? Not trying to derail the thread, I’m sure OP can gain some valuable insight from terminal ballistics on his target animal.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:43 am to Theduckhunter
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shot a whitetail buck at 15 yards (from 25’ up) with a 300 SAUM 165 grain core lokt that didn’t pass through
Primarily because impact velocity was far too high for that bullet. Normal hunting bullets really don't do weird things. They are extremely predictable. That's a lot of horsepower behind a not particularly robust bullet, which causes it to over-expand or come apart.
It's counter-intuitive but your odds of getting exits gets better as the range increases, all other things equal and up to an extent of course.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:14 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Primarily because impact velocity was far too high for that bullet.
If it had blown up, I would agree with you, but that wasn’t the case.
Over-expansion or not, a 165 grain bullet traveling 3000 fps that stays together at 15 yards and doesn’t exit a thin skinned animal is weird.
I’ve shot plenty of deer and hogs at close range with a .270 and “not particularly robust bullets” and I don’t recall recovering any bullets.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:13 pm to Theduckhunter
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I’ve shot plenty of deer and hogs at close range with a .270 and “not particularly robust bullets” and I don’t recall recovering any bullets.
Have recovered many core locks from deer hit at sub 100 yards with a .270
Your bullet didn't exit because the impact velocity was too high for it. They don't always blow up or even over-expand. If it reaches full expansion in a half inch vs 4 inches, it's going to penetrate less.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:40 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Your bullet didn't exit because the impact velocity was too high for it.
No sir. That was a factor for sure, but it ultimately didn’t exit because it entered at the back of the rib cage, taking out 2 or 3 ribs along the way and traveling to the base of the neck before getting lodged in the hide. It’s likely that bullet would have exited on a broadside shot, although, not 100%. My word choice of “weird”, was poor, but my point is that bullets are not “extremely predictable” once they enter an animal. Reasonably predictable, sure, but you know better than to act like it’s a sure thing.
Speaking of bullets, did you get to test out the .223 this season?
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:50 am to Theduckhunter
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did you get to test out the .223 this season?
I toted them around the woods a bunch and didnt shoot anything with them
Posted on 2/12/26 at 3:13 pm to Rize
I can't think of a single one the family or friends have killed that wasn't a pass thru shot. I know weve taken 14-15 off the property over the years. strange.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 7:43 pm to mtb010
I’m all for buying a new gun but your 270 with a 140-150 gr quality bonded or monolithic bullet is more than capable of killing a nilgai out to 600 yards. There are relatively few people on earth who should be attempting to shoot an animal past that, and no offense intended but if you were one you probably wouldn’t be here asking.
If you’re serious about stretching it out on a live animal, a ruger American predator isn’t the gun. I own it in 6.5cm and it’s built to be a light weight whitetail or coyote daily driver, exactly what the name suggests, not a dial-a-turret tack driver. The recoil in something like 7prc or 300 win mag would be offensive.
I would look hard at something from Bergara or a Weatherby 307 that’s gonna be closer to 10 lbs decked out in a rem700 footprint, meaning you can easily upgrade any part of the rifle down the line if you want. I would pick 300 win mag if you don’t handload just for the ammo availability.
If you’re serious about stretching it out on a live animal, a ruger American predator isn’t the gun. I own it in 6.5cm and it’s built to be a light weight whitetail or coyote daily driver, exactly what the name suggests, not a dial-a-turret tack driver. The recoil in something like 7prc or 300 win mag would be offensive.
I would look hard at something from Bergara or a Weatherby 307 that’s gonna be closer to 10 lbs decked out in a rem700 footprint, meaning you can easily upgrade any part of the rifle down the line if you want. I would pick 300 win mag if you don’t handload just for the ammo availability.
Posted on 2/12/26 at 8:27 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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no offense intended but if you were one you probably wouldn’t be here asking
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closer to 10 lbs decked out
My preference would be a tikka but otherwise,
:kige:
Posted on 2/12/26 at 8:53 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
It can be done with a roughtech heavier profile tikka but they are still a bit svelte without an aftermarket stock that’s gonna be $$. I love my tikka and I will build a long range rig from one, but it takes planning. After putting 300 handloads through my superlite I can say with confidence that weight is your friend shooting distance.
Posted on 2/14/26 at 12:00 am to mtb010
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