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Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 3:28 pm to
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we eliminate the natural predators and take the prime stock from the herd


Just the way I like it.
Posted by Farmtiger
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 4:47 pm to
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Then they will die of starvation.


Great, no Elk and starving wolves! Guess they’ll just die quietly in the night and not attack people, farm animals, pets, etc…
Posted by hubreb
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 6:54 pm to
I can tell you for fact that black bear are decimated the herd in tenses parish
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 7:28 pm to
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Not shocked that you are on the opposite side of the fence.
That no engagement thing is working out great for you
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 12/22/23 at 7:31 pm to
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Great, no Elk and starving wolves! Guess they’ll just die quietly in the night and not attack people, farm animals, pets, etc…

The wolf threads are fantastic. They draw out the low IQ posters even better than LIV golf threads.
Posted by Farmtiger
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 6:18 pm to
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They draw out the low IQ posters


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Since the reintroduction of WolvesSince the reintroduction of wolves in the mid-1990s, the population of the Northern Yellowstone elk herd is down 80 percent from nearly 20,000 to less than 4,000 today. In the mid-2000s, some biologists claimed the elk population stabilized in the 6,000 plus range, yet since that time the herd dropped another 30 percent in size and is now below the 4,000 mark for the first time ever! The story is similar in central Idaho where the elk population dropped 43 percent since 2002. Those are just two examples and there are other pockets with high concentrations of wolves having an effect on elk populations.


Low IQ stuff I guess
Posted by Lsutigerturner
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 8:19 pm to
Same for a lot of Texas and georgia
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 12/24/23 at 8:24 pm to
The green highlights exactly what is wrong with all of Colorado's politics.

Posted by mallardhank
Atlanta
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 4:58 am to
A friend was elk hunting last year in Montana during archery season. Had several wolves come in on him, both directly and trying to encircle. Fortunately he carried a Springfield 10mm and saw the two coming around from the side. Shot at one and the pack scattered. Damn lucky in my book. Unfortunately did not hit wolf.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:46 am to
S.S.S. IYKYK that is the preferred rancher way of dealing with these non-native invasive species.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 11:48 am to
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Low IQ stuff I guess
I have never actually seen AlxTgr give an opinion on anything. He just posts emojis and calls everyone an idiot

But I would lord to see him or anyone else thinking wolves won’t hurt the elk population respond. Wolves are only good for elk populations when humans around them were Apache or Comanche. Wolf and pale face don’t work together


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Since the reintroduction of WolvesSince the reintroduction of wolves in the mid-1990s, the population of the Northern Yellowstone elk herd is down 80 percent from nearly 20,000 to less than 4,000 today. In the mid-2000s, some biologists claimed the elk population stabilized in the 6,000 plus range, yet since that time the herd dropped another 30 percent in size and is now below the 4,000 mark for the first time ever! The story is similar in central Idaho where the elk population dropped 43 percent since 2002. Those are just two examples and there are other pockets with high concentrations of wolves having an effect on elk populations.
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 11:52 am
Posted by Taxman2010
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 12:22 pm to
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I have never actually seen AlxTgr give an opinion on anything. He just posts emojis and calls everyone an idiot


Dude is a livescope guy and queerer than the blazes.
This post was edited on 12/25/23 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 12/25/23 at 1:37 pm to
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The south Louisiana coonass population has done a number on deer in north east Louisiana


FIFY

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110052 posts
Posted on 12/25/23 at 1:55 pm to
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The south Louisiana coonass population has done a number on deer in north east Louisiana
When I’m hunting in Union parish at our place and people ask where I am from I lie and say Winnfield
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:59 pm to

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In a rural state of 5.6 million, city dwellers vote to re-introduce apex predators on the neighboring rural population.

And for what?

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“Now is a time to celebrate,” he said, “not in front of those directly impacted. But to roll up our sleeves collectively to help support our ranching and rural communities.”


Supposedly ok though because taxpayers will reimburse ranchers for livestock carcass removal.

So people that don't have to live amongst wolves, voted to have a wolves released on their opponents.

An unbelievable course of events.

This post was edited on 1/23/25 at 12:02 am
Posted by canyon
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 6:56 am to
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So people that don't have to live amongst wolves, voted to have a wolves released on their opponents.

Basically.
The green areas should be painted blue because that is the color of the majority of the voters there.

The new Colorado Parks and Wildlife workforce is falling into place for the touchy feelys to get these issues on the ballot. At least the vote to ban predator hunting was squashed last election. Once you get non scientists voting with their feelings you can just about get away with anything.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 7:26 am to
I'll preface my short remarks with this. I live in a neighboring state, and any wolves released in Colorado will likely make their way over the borders (and likely they already have from WY in the NE corner of this state).

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The wolf was eradicated for a reason.


I'm not saying wolf reintroduction is a good thing, but we almost did the same thing to the Bison. Basing modern wildlife management strategy by the thinking of 150 years ago might not be the smartest thing we could do.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 7:33 am to
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Since the reintroduction of Wolves. Since the reintroduction of wolves in the mid-1990s, the population of the Northern Yellowstone elk herd is down 80 percent from nearly 20,000 to less than 4,000 today. In the mid-2000s, some biologists claimed the elk population stabilized in the 6,000 plus range, yet since that time the herd dropped another 30 percent in size and is now below the 4,000 mark for the first time ever! The story is similar in central Idaho where the elk population dropped 43 percent since 2002. Those are just two examples and there are other pockets with high concentrations of wolves having an effect on elk populations.


Having an MS degree in Ecology, I can tell you , you're posting the wrong numbers. What you actually need to post is what is not the actual population numbers, but the carrying capacity of those herds. If you look at the Lotka–Volterra predator–prey equations, it was pretty easy to understand that, for the times you posted, Elk and Deer populations were above their carrying capacity in those areas.



Again, I'm not saying I'm for these reintroductions, but let's at least be honest about what we're talking about.
This post was edited on 1/23/25 at 7:36 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 7:42 am to
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Elk did need wolves for thousands of years. Once man had modern weaponry and living patterns Elk no longer need wolves

They only need wolves and benefit if humans give up modern living and weaponry. That isn’t happening, thus reintroducing wolves is a useless endeavor with no positive outcome


This kind of boils the whole argument down to brass tacks. It's also a very succinct reason on why wolves benefited Yellowstone (where there's no human predation on Elk) and maybe not the rest of the GYE.

Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7363 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 9:26 am to
Libs think bears, big cats, and wolves are stuffed animals that they can cuddle. Colorado is being ruined by libtards.

Wolves were coming, anyway. There really wasn’t a reason to transplant them.
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