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re: Fishing/boating on someone else’s property to remain illegal

Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:36 pm to
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61157 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

you kindly point me to the law that states you own 500 ft about your property?
your question was how high could they prohibit people from flying above their property.

I simply provided an altitude that is listed by the FAA as public airspace.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13606 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:11 pm to
You have more public area to fish in LA than Sabine and mobile deltas combined and Xs 3.
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 7:39 pm to
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Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:43 pm to
Not the point.... the point is Sabine and Mobile Deltas are very very similar to the Louisiana marsh and they have no restrictions.... We do have a good bit of public area to fish.... the problem is that we have lost some areas as well... the way the law is written we could lose a good bit more.... all major tournament trails will not come back here.... Also, as I have traveled the southeast fishing tournaments I have learned from my competitors from other states that they will never vacation here because of the laws.... I know that may make some of you happy, but I think it’s wrong and will fight to change it
Posted by Contender54
the Enn Oh
Member since Jan 2009
1117 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:23 pm to
When you say "change" it, you realize you are asking the government to "take" someone's property and give it to you, right?

What about all the taxes and expenses paid by the private landowner over the years? Does none of that count?
Posted by Wacker
South Louisiana
Member since Jul 2014
306 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:58 pm to
Not asking to be given someone’s property... Just want to fish ..... just like all the other states..... Like I said in previous posts.... What goes on in Louisiana is way different than any other state..... Nobody is asking to hunt the land, mineral rights, etc.... just the opportunity to fish the water....
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7893 posts
Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:38 pm to
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just the opportunity to fish the water....


Just like in all 49 other states.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29523 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 2:57 am to
Courtesy of Media Bass.

All areas in Red are off limits to the public.
All areas in Green are still open to the public.

Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 6:46 am to
I, for someone who is neither a marsh fisherman or marshowner, enjoy reading these threads with great amusement.


On one hand you have baws that think it should be public because they really like to fish da marsh and also other states have public waters rules so we should be able to fish anywhere a boat can be driven and also they really like to fish da marsh.


On the other hand you have alxtger dropping logic and actual law like firey balls of napalm amongst the circle jerk.
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2173 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:09 am to
Alex, any updates on the Catahoula Lake situation?
Posted by lotik
Member since Jul 2018
530 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:26 am to
You do realize this doesn’t only apply to “da marsh”?
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5419 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:29 am to
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Where exactly is the state rebuilding marsh on private land at the expense of tax payers?


Between Elmers Island and Fourchon. Considered private marsh but the state filled in all the holes from the marsh to the gulf to combat the erosion. I will say this though I know it's considered private but I see a lot of people fishing it every time I drive by and have not seen anybody getting ran off.
Posted by snapper26
Member since Nov 2015
558 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 7:37 am to
Media Bass is wrong then.

All that green around the bayou decade area should be red unless its in the bayou.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86926 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 8:25 am to
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Alex, any updates on the Catahoula Lake situation?


Writ app sitting at Supreme Court. Their site is not as user friendly, to me, as the Third Circuit, so I probably will not know the result as fast as before. We will all probably see a press release at some point. But, if granted, it will probably be for briefing and argument, so then there would be another delay.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1617 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:06 am to
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I know that may make some of you happy, but I think it’s wrong and will fight to change it


You should probably prepare yourself to lose, bud. The people who own these places very likely have too much stroke to ever let a law pass that changes it.

I also find the concept of “taking without reimbursement” distasteful. They had to buy this marsh at some point to be able to claim ownership of it. It has no surface value beyond fishing, so claiming “all I want is to fish it” defeats the purpose of owning it.

It honestly sounds like this should and will be treated like woods and hunting have been: you want a place to fish? Buy one. Otherwise fish the few public places and be thankful you have them. No ones owes you a place to fish.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 9:08 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86926 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Decisions



Posted by SpeckledTiger
Denham Springs
Member since Jul 2010
1482 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:31 am to
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It honestly sounds like this should and will be treated like woods


Any attempt to analogize water access with air, roads, forest, etc. is misguided and a strawman argument at best. Water is water and must be regulated uniquely as it presents unique circumstances that don't exist by land or by air.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86926 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Any attempt to analogize water access with air, roads, forest, etc. is misguided and a strawman argument at best
It's neither misguided nor a straw man. The best example of a straw man here is the rebuild with state money argument.

quote:

Water is water and must be regulated uniquely as it presents unique circumstances that don't exist by land or by air.
This isn't a water issue. That's where so many get off track. It is a land issue.
Posted by Decisions
Member since Mar 2015
1617 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:44 am to
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water access


You use this phrase but you don’t mean it. No one here wants these canals opened so that they can reach their own lakes or property.

That’s access. Needing to use a place as a transit to elsewhere.

Y’all just want to fish it, to use the place itself for its fish habitat value (which is JUST like woods and their hunting, FYI). For free. No thanks.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 9:51 am
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5419 posts
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:46 am to
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The best example of a straw man here is the rebuild with state money argument.


I honestly have a hard time with this issue because I'm a strong supporter of property rights but I also don't think state money should be going to the restoration of private land. Do you think the state should be spending money on that?
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