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Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:27 pm to
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20872 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:27 pm to
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Unfortunately, 3000k acres not far from me is going to be a solar farm.

3 million acre solar farm?
Posted by WillFerrellisking
Member since Jun 2019
2716 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:32 pm to
What a waste to use 3000 acres of timber for a dang solar field.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6931 posts
Posted on 12/27/24 at 9:35 pm to
Do.
Not.
Sell.
Posted by TuckyTiger
Central Ky
Member since Nov 2016
504 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 12:28 am to
There’s big one just south of Monroe, La. On US 165.
Eye sore would be an understatement.

Have several ancestors that rest in the Roberts Cemetery in Amite Co.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 7:01 am
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2319 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:06 am to
You’re getting biased answers because it’s the OB. I have bought recreational timberland in MS. My advice is that, on the average, this asset class is not a great investment unless you derive significant personal satisfaction/enjoyment from the property. Of course, if the land is in an area likely to see development, my advice likely wouldn’t apply.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
6510 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 8:46 am to
Fixed
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 10:45 am
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7352 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 9:52 am to
Land may not be the best investment, but it’s nice to have diversity in your investments.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5601 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:03 am to
Find a couple pics of random 6 or 7 point bucks, a couple Jake turkeys, and a couple wood ducks and say those are pics from your place. Take the pics and create a word document, print it out, and place them at a couple of plants in SE La and have them bid on exclusive hunting rights. Should expect about $15-20 an acre.

Lease out the hay rights also.

That covers your yearly taxes and a couple of nice vacations for the fam
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29878 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:34 am to
Even though he fixed it to 3000 acres that’s almost 5 square miles. Seems a bit much.
Posted by pdubya76
Sw Ms
Member since Mar 2012
6510 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:43 am to
I hope it’s not that much land but that’s what we are hearing. It will be built by Swift current.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6208 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:54 am to
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He gets a stepped up tax basis, so he only has to pay taxes on the capital gain from date of death.

Example: Bequeather buys land for 250k in 2014. They die in 2024. Land appraises for 500k when bequeather dies. Bequeathed wants to sell land after a couple years. Gets it sold for 600k. He pays taxes on 100k, not 350k.

This is why he needs to get an appraisal, to establish a value at date of death.



Yes this is the way it works in MS.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2319 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 11:57 am to
That’s what I keep telling myself too.
Posted by chrome1007
Toledo Bend
Member since Dec 2023
584 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:18 pm to
My advice is make an appointment with a reputable accountant that is experienced in land management. It will be money well spent and might even give you options you haven’t thought of.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83697 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:36 pm to
God I’d love to receive 200 acres. I’d have a private shooting range for sure
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69775 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:43 pm to
Even if the 200 acres is inherited?
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2319 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 1:52 pm to
It’s still opportunity cost, whether inherited or purchased.

In a very simplified way…. An inherited asset worth $1m (could be sold for that) is ‘costing’ you $80k a year if you can make 8% elsewhere (option B). If the inherited asset isnt paying or appreciating at 8%, it’s a poor investment decision to keep it in comparison to option B.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 2:25 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
69775 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

In a very simplified way…. An inherited asset worth $1m (could be sold for that) is ‘costing’ you $80k a year if you can make 8% elsewhere (option B). If the inherited asset isnt paying or appreciating at 8%, it’s a poor investment decision to keep it in comparison to option B.


You may need to complicate it a bit. If I can't afford $1 million in assets, I'm not losing 80k a year in lost opportunity. Not to mention inheriting means you can still invest your cash elsewhere.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2319 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:38 pm to
Option A: you inherit $1M worth of land and sit on it.

Option B: you liquidate and invest in an account that pays a 5% interest rate. After 365 days the account is worth $1,050,000. If you wanted to, you could go get 500 Benjamins and leave the $1M to make 500 more for next year.

In this example Option A ‘costs’ you $50k per year relative to Option B. That’s opportunity cost, again with some details left out. Question always becomes what is the interest rate for B vs that which the land appreciates, plus taxes, expenses, etc.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 3:44 pm
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
12338 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:44 pm to
If the land is just sitting idly, not generating income, and not appreciating in value, you’re losing 80k by not selling it and investing that 1 million into an index fund that tracks the Nasdaq, S&P, etc. returning 8% on the $1 million.

That is opportunity cost, and strictly a mathematical way of viewing it.

If you can take that $1 million property and make it generate some revenue, appreciate in value, and enjoy it recreationally to where it’s worth $80k/yr to you, then there is no opportunity cost.

If you can’t generate enough income to return that 8%, then the enjoyment you derive from owning the property factors a great deal in how much of the opportunity cost you’re willing to eat.

It’s all a matter of personal preference and how you view land ownership really… Unfortunately, there are real mathematical realities that you have to consider no matter how you feel about it.
This post was edited on 12/28/24 at 3:47 pm
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63186 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Get ready to pay the tax man once you sell it. Capital gains going to be at least 15%.


Maybe not. It all depends on how much it's valued on the succession documents (i.e. "basis"). Those valuations can be rather high sometimes.
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