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re: Looking to puchase my first handgun
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:21 am to Ole Geauxt
Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:21 am to Ole Geauxt
They need testing from time to time. Both, actually.
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Posted on 8/29/11 at 11:25 am to AlxTgr
quote:imma true sportsman and an outdoor fee nomanon, amber dextriose too, can do em both at the same time...
They need testing from time to time. Both, actually.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 12:45 pm to Ole Geauxt
Posted on 8/29/11 at 2:15 pm to Boats n Hose
The rationale behind putting manual trigger safeties on hunting firearms is two-fold.
1) Why not? A hunting firearms generally isn't going to be used as a self defense weapon. It makes anti-gun groups sorta happy b/c it's a type of gun control
2) When hunting you usually are climbing in and out of boats, up and down trees etc. A safety helps lessen the chance a branch gets caught inside your trigger guard and causes your brain to suddenly vaporize through a giant cavity in your skull.
Handguns for SD are a totally different animal. I've been trained by some of the best; men who are govt trained to kill other men for a living. The one prevailing theme with all of them is: the best safety is the one between your ears. Mechanical safeties can and will eventually fail. If you don't want your kid to possibly pop a cap in another kid on accident, you have two choices. Don't own a gun, or learn that owning a firearm and securing it is a full time job.
So basically a person new to handguns needs to first decide what the function of said handgun will be. If it's just for plinking at the range, there are 1000s to choose from. If it's for SD, there's a lot less to choose from. If it's for SD the only question you need to ask yourself is: "How much is my life worth?"
1) Why not? A hunting firearms generally isn't going to be used as a self defense weapon. It makes anti-gun groups sorta happy b/c it's a type of gun control
2) When hunting you usually are climbing in and out of boats, up and down trees etc. A safety helps lessen the chance a branch gets caught inside your trigger guard and causes your brain to suddenly vaporize through a giant cavity in your skull.
Handguns for SD are a totally different animal. I've been trained by some of the best; men who are govt trained to kill other men for a living. The one prevailing theme with all of them is: the best safety is the one between your ears. Mechanical safeties can and will eventually fail. If you don't want your kid to possibly pop a cap in another kid on accident, you have two choices. Don't own a gun, or learn that owning a firearm and securing it is a full time job.
So basically a person new to handguns needs to first decide what the function of said handgun will be. If it's just for plinking at the range, there are 1000s to choose from. If it's for SD, there's a lot less to choose from. If it's for SD the only question you need to ask yourself is: "How much is my life worth?"
This post was edited on 8/29/11 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 8/29/11 at 2:34 pm to chrisman17
The handgun I purchase will have zero PD duties. It will be for fun. It will be around lots of people I cannot control. Probably lots of alcohol too. All of us have good insurance. All were raised on long guns. None think the way pistol peeps do. Most of us are miserable anyway.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 2:37 pm to AlxTgr
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All of us have good insurance.
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Most of us are miserable anyway.
I like the way you think
Posted on 8/29/11 at 2:45 pm to AlxTgr
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The handgun I purchase will have zero PD duties. It will be for fun. It will be around lots of people I cannot control. Probably lots of alcohol too. All of us have good insurance. All were raised on long guns. None think the way pistol peeps do. Most of us are miserable anyway.
Get this
then some of these
and one of these
then upload the highlights to YouTube so all the rest of us can enjoy the fun!
Posted on 8/29/11 at 2:55 pm to chrisman17
That would break my wrists. I'll get a Judge instead.
I watched Jerry Miculek shooting cans of corn with a 460 this weekend. Lots of spray.
I watched Jerry Miculek shooting cans of corn with a 460 this weekend. Lots of spray.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 3:10 pm to AlxTgr
Careful how you hold those 460s or this could be you.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 3:13 pm to chrisman17
Holy shite WTF happened there? 
Posted on 8/29/11 at 3:16 pm to chrisman17
Some have questioned my decision to get this gun and I tell them part of the reason is I suck at accuracy with handguns after a long layoff from shooting. I need as much power as possible to cover for my crappy aim.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 3:18 pm to Boats n Hose
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Holy shite WTF happened there?
Hot gas and extreme pressure > support hand thumb in the wrong place.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 3:19 pm to chrisman17
wow 
Posted on 8/29/11 at 3:19 pm to Boats n Hose
probably a different case but:
A Rosston, Ark., couple are suing Smith & Wesson in federal court because of a serious injury allegedly caused by a .460 Magnum revolver.
A Rosston, Ark., couple are suing Smith & Wesson in federal court because of a serious injury allegedly caused by a .460 Magnum revolver.
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“Todd then lowered the gun to see if he had hit the deer, and as he was looking for the deer in the moments following the shot he saw blood shooting up in the air and on his gun and clothes, and he looked and saw that his thumb had been severed from his left hand and there was a deep gash in the flesh of the palm of his left hand extending up to his index finger ...” the suit alleges.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 3:20 pm to chrisman17
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Hot gas and extreme pressure > support hand thumb in the wrong place.
I think i'll pass on that caliber
Posted on 8/29/11 at 5:13 pm to chrisman17
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The one prevailing theme with all of them is: the best safety is the one between your ears.
Agreed, but I like the added benefit of a safety (just my personal preference). I have been face to face with two different intruders on two different occasions; one breaking into my truck and one breaking into my house (I used to live in the hood in N.O. while in gradschool). Both times I went to retrieve a weapon and had enough time to flip the safety. My point is if you have time to get a weapon, you have time to disengage the safety. I think people sometimes envision the OK Corral scenario where they are drawing down on an armed assailant, but that's just not the case. Most times intruders want the path of least resistance and will quickly flee when they see a gun and do a quick cost/benefit analysis (which is why the argument about the Judge not being lethal is kind of a useless argument). If I have to defend my family I want to do it in the safest way possible (for them) so I choose to have a safety. Again, this is my personal preference.
Posted on 8/29/11 at 5:17 pm to LSU_Lou
Alx, I'll go hunting with you and Geauxt anytime. I mean there are safeties on the guns, what's the worst that can happen! 
Posted on 8/29/11 at 5:28 pm to LSU_Lou
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I mean there are safeties on the guns, what's the worst that can happen!
Posted on 8/29/11 at 5:31 pm to LSU_Lou
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gun is just for shooting/add to the collection.
If that's the case, get a 22 LR handgun, a couple of thousand rounds and enjoy burning powder! If you think you might someday get a revolver for self-defense, I'd make this purchase a revolver; if a future SD gun is going to be a semi-auto, then I'd make this gun a semi-auto.
There are a gazillion good 22 LR handguns out there. Nice semi-auto's that come to mind include the Ruger Mk 3 and Browning Buckmark. There are a number of 1911 style guns chambered in 22 LR, as well. My next gun purchase will probably be a GSG 1911 in 22 LR. There are also a large number of 22 LR revolvers. If you're inclined to "the old west," there are also a bunch of sigle actions in 22 LR.
Buy one and start shooting!
Posted on 8/29/11 at 5:40 pm to chrisman17
quote:You should not be doing this with a loaded weapon.
When hunting you usually are climbing in and out of boats, up and down trees etc.
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