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re: My last red snapper trip.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:27 pm to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:27 pm to AwgustaDawg
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he problem is that more than about 50 feet deep, any short fish or fish caught out of season has to be vented to release, especially as fast as they come up on an electric reel, and venting allows them to swim away but the data suggests that's about the extent of their life.
I don't feel that's completely correct. We catch numerous snaps in depths up to +200' that don't suffer any type of barotrauma. We use spinning reels in lieu of conventional, or electric reels. The electrics are for depths of 300' and greater. Most folks don't properly vent the fish because of improper technique which causes a higher mortality rate.
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Posted on 7/8/24 at 2:50 pm to Trevaylin
I hope I can still fins inshore at that age, much less offshore. You must be doing something right!
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:07 pm to SmokinBurger
Made a trip in 2006 out of the Mermentau in 4-6's and was sore for a week.
Not sure what the limit was back then but there's no way i am getting beat up for 2 fish and i would need to think about it today for 4 fish.
Same year i won the Iberia R&G tournament for a 43# Hoo overnighting at the Pickets. Having a guy wake you up shitting in a bucker next to your bean bag really gets the day going.
Not sure what the limit was back then but there's no way i am getting beat up for 2 fish and i would need to think about it today for 4 fish.
Same year i won the Iberia R&G tournament for a 43# Hoo overnighting at the Pickets. Having a guy wake you up shitting in a bucker next to your bean bag really gets the day going.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:46 pm to Trevaylin
I used to go about once a month during the late spring to early fall back in the early 90's. We'd have about 6 guys and all split up the fuel. We'd burn about $200 in fuel back then and I believe the limit was 5 per person. The fuel averaged about $50/person so $50 for 5 nice snapper wasn't that bad. I was 30+ years younger.
With the price of fuel these days and just 2 fish and factoring in my age.....No f'ing way.
With the price of fuel these days and just 2 fish and factoring in my age.....No f'ing way.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:56 pm to Trevaylin
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Thats good, but at age 76 its time to just go to the fish market.
You are old enough to know better than to go fishing while there is a hurricane in the Gulf less than 300 miles away.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 4:25 pm to MakersMark
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electric fishing reels
quote:reel up 1000' a few times and see if you feel like its cheating.
It kind of feels like cheating,
Posted on 7/8/24 at 4:33 pm to TigerB8
quote:ive caught hundreds and hundreds of snapper out the gulf and never seen one of these.
I hate pulling up a red snapper that has one of those parasites on its tongue. Can't get the wife to eat it after she sees the parasite. called cymathoa
Posted on 7/8/24 at 4:35 pm to Novastar
quote:well.... you might not see the bulging eyes or the aire gassing out the skin all the time but their can be damage. A lot become shark bait when you release them as they are dead tired and an easy meal.
Most folks don't properly vent the fish because of improper technique which causes a higher mortality rate.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:03 pm to CarRamrod
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ive caught hundreds and hundreds of snapper out the gulf and never seen one of these.
Never? Damn!
Posted on 7/9/24 at 6:01 am to Novastar
quote:
I don't feel that's completely correct. We catch numerous snaps in depths up to +200' that don't suffer any type of barotrauma. We use spinning reels in lieu of conventional, or electric reels. The electrics are for depths of 300' and greater. Most folks don't properly vent the fish because of improper technique which causes a higher mortality rate.
I didn't mean to suggest anyone is fishing in 50 feet of water with an electric but that's the way the sentence read. I meant that catching one in 50 feet often requires venting with spinning or conventional tackle. You are 100% correct about venting....its not as simple as many seem to think and even when done properly many fish still die because, especially after being caught on light tackle, because they are worn out and are easy prey for the dolphins, sharks and barracudas that find any shadow cast on surface.
I have been on some party boats on the Atlantic coast in the last 10 years because I had nothing better to do and they will, about half the time, release fish without venting at all. I fished on one out of Jacksonville about 10 years ago and there was a line of 10 pound or better snapper floating on the surface nearly the entire trip...5-10 very nice snapper released every hour or so which were not going to survive for the most part. I have seen this on the gulf coast on charters also. Slobs exist but in all honesty I don't know that I have ever been bottom fishing in more than 100 feet of water where at least a couple of fish were released and re-appeared bellly up over the course of 5 or 6 hours. It is really difficult to successfully release a fish (meaning it survives) that has been drug up 100 feet and fought as hard as they do. Its part of it and I am sure its taken into consideration when regs are written but it has made me reconsider bottom fishing more than once. I hate to kill anything that I do not intend to eat. Feel the same way about crippling birds. It happens but no one likes the idea of it.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 6:07 am to CarRamrod
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well.... you might not see the bulging eyes or the aire gassing out the skin all the time but their can be damage. A lot become shark bait when you release them as they are dead tired and an easy meal.
I love to catch fish on light tackle but the lighter the tackle the higher the probability is that a released fish will not survive. This is as true in a foot of water as it is in 100 feet or more. Catch and release fishing is not as clean as many think. Fighting to exhaustion is a good way to become dinner for a predator. Warm water makes the situation worse. Many anglers try to do their best but it still winds up with the fish dying. Its part of it but knowing that it isn't exactly as advertised may mean more fisherman take extra effort to increase the odds of survival. I know it has with me. I will quit now instead of continuing to catch and release.
Posted on 7/9/24 at 2:40 pm to AwgustaDawg
Electrics or BUST for us !
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:03 am to Trevaylin
Like bream fishing in a washing machine under a heat lamp.
Give me a bluewater rip going 7 kn with a cold beer in my hand sitting in the shade baby!
Glad you can still go at your age.
Give me a bluewater rip going 7 kn with a cold beer in my hand sitting in the shade baby!
Glad you can still go at your age.
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