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re: Next Rifle Purchase
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:29 pm to thegreatboudini
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:29 pm to thegreatboudini
Tikkas are light but the stock and recoil pad both work well. I havent shot a 300 tikka but I have shot a sako finnlight. I didn't find it any worst than a .30-06 tikka with 180's
In the real world it won't matter inside of 600 yards or so. The 300 can give you 30ish more yards of mpbr, and less wind drift if you're shooting far enough for that to matter
In the real world it won't matter inside of 600 yards or so. The 300 can give you 30ish more yards of mpbr, and less wind drift if you're shooting far enough for that to matter
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Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:35 pm to Clames
[quote]Maybe an inconel or stellite core wrapped with carbon fiber b[/quote
That sounds sexy
Maybe integrate the first inch of chamber into the case so it's replaced every shot?
Its not a simple problem to solve but with how good cad and FEA are getting, I think we'll see some more cool stuff happening before we all start deer hunting with lasers
That sounds sexy
Maybe integrate the first inch of chamber into the case so it's replaced every shot?
Its not a simple problem to solve but with how good cad and FEA are getting, I think we'll see some more cool stuff happening before we all start deer hunting with lasers
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:06 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I think with rapid progression of high-speed, high-capability CNC cells and advances in metallurgy we are not far from rifle barrels where maybe the chamber and first few inches are one type of steel and seamlessly transitions to a more traditional material. We have PM steels with very high tungsten and vanadium carbides that are extremely wear resistant, if there is an alloy that can be worked with existing rotary hammer cold forging equipment and be heat treated to be suitable for a rifle barrel then that might be the next thing. Crucible already has two stainless steels listed as suitable for rifle barrels but neither are considered suitable for extensive cold forging.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:13 pm to Clames
Why do carbon sleeved barrels cost so damned much? A stellite barrel with a carbon sleeve seems like a fantastic idea.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:25 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Think it's labor intensive and hard to do right. If you think about all the steps and what's involved, you have a good chance of screwing up and creating scrap that still has to have its cost factored into the barrels that make it through QC. I think there is almost no automation for these barrels whereas as straight alloy barrel can go from barrel blank to finished and ready to attach to an action or receiver without ever being touched by a human.
This is a link to a 1967 report on stellite lined 5.56mm MG barrels vs traditional and a two-piece design.
DTIC Technical Report
This is a link to a 1967 report on stellite lined 5.56mm MG barrels vs traditional and a two-piece design.
DTIC Technical Report
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 1/29/25 at 10:01 am to Clames
Ah, I didn't realize they were hand wrapping then
Posted on 1/29/25 at 11:30 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Yeah, most spin the barrel core in a dedicated lathe and wrap the resin coated CF under controlled tension in a fixture. Then they are usually cured in an special oven. Think the current technique is to install a bushing to place the whole assembly in tension to help tune out some harmonics as well as add strength to the carbon fiber layer. It's a lot of extra steps to the final product when done right hence the cost. Think the only CF I am entertaining in a future rifle purchase will be in the stock which has me looking at Weatherby, Seekins, Springfield Armory, and Bergara at the moment.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 1:39 pm to Clames
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Think the only CF I am entertaining in a future rifle purchase will be in the stock which has me looking at Weatherby, Seekins, Springfield Armory, and Bergara at the moment.
Why don't you just look at building one and getting it bedded in a Manners stock?
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:12 pm to bbvdd
Looking at that too, Bergara sells barreled actions now. Not 100% sure I want to go that route, I'm not in any hurry and I'm going to try to put my hands on some example rifles well before I buy anything.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:45 pm to Clames
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Yeah, most spin the barrel core in a dedicated lathe and wrap
yuuup, that stage of the barrel making process is called Wrap & Grind
PROOF barrels are a tad bit heavier than other CF barrels because they don't turn the blank down as much, leaving more meat on the barrel before wrapping the CF strands. On most builds, you will save an average of 1.25 lbs. to 1.5 lbs. using an equivalent barrel contour and length (i.e. Sendero). CF barrels are very nice as I've owned a few. IMO a match grade S.S. barrel is still slightly more accurate than a CF barrel. If someone has the $$$ and wants to build a Liteweight 7 ~ 8# rifle, CF barrels are hard to beat. Although a #3 or #4 fluted contour is also very nice and aesthetically pleasing for a hunting rifle.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 2:50 pm to Clames
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Looking at that too, Bergara sells barreled actions now. Not 100% sure I want to go that route, I'm not in any hurry and I'm going to try to put my hands on some example rifles well before I buy anything.
There are so many very good actions out there with prefit barrels made for them.
ETA:
Prefit barrel:
Northland Shooters barrel
Bighorn Origin Action:
Northland Bighorn Origin
Aero Solus (only comes in short action for now):
Northland Shooters Aero
This post was edited on 1/29/25 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 1/29/25 at 7:12 pm to LSUTiger23
OP, with that line up, how could you possibly need anything else?
A .308 or 7mm-08 is all you need.
A .308 or 7mm-08 is all you need.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:35 pm to 308
Because I like guns
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:38 pm to LSUTiger23
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Because I like guns
Posted on 1/29/25 at 8:50 pm to 308
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OP, with that line up, how could you possibly need anything else?
I had bought a gun one time and went to see my mom right after I picked it up. I took it in and was looking at the gun (an AR). She said “why do you need a gun like that?”
I responded, it has nothing to do with need. I don’t need anything. It’s all about what I want.
Posted on 1/29/25 at 9:54 pm to bbvdd
Bookmarked that site, will probably send them some emails to see what they'd be able to recommend. I just cleared a work bench so it's not like I don't have space to start collecting parts.... 
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:35 am to Clames
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Bookmarked that site, will probably send them some emails to see what they'd be able to recommend. I just cleared a work bench so it's not like I don't have space to start collecting parts....
A bolt action truly is easy to build.
4 parts
Action
Barrel
trigger
stock (Well I guess bottom metal goes into this as well)
James at Northland is great. He's very much no nonsense but can help a lot.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:17 am to bbvdd
Yeah, sure it's somewhat less complicated than any AR I've assembled but it's always the tiny details I will sweat.... Also looking at glass and right now I'm looking at Leupold Mk V lineup
Also looking at glass and right now I'm looking at Leupold Mk V lineup
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:27 am to Clames
Issue with building bolt guns that make me not jump into it yet is the precise fitting required with some systems. The aero solus action and others will let you use prefit barrels and can set headspace with the savage type barrel nut system. And there are prefit barrels already set up for some actions to just screw straight in, but you are relying on all tolerances being precise. Otherwise, you are getting a gunsmith to custom cut threads and chambers based on your action.
Posted on 1/30/25 at 9:37 am to Jon A thon
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Issue with building bolt guns that make me not jump into it yet is the precise fitting required with some systems. The aero solus action and others will let you use prefit barrels and can set headspace with the savage type barrel nut system. And there are prefit barrels already set up for some actions to just screw straight in, but you are relying on all tolerances being precise. Otherwise, you are getting a gunsmith to custom cut threads and chambers based on your action.
I've built 3 (and have one more to go) and I used the remage fit barrels on them with the nut. Getting the headspace correct it so easy.
The prefit barrels (if bought from Northland) will fit. Wouldn't be worries about that. Solus also takes the same barrel as the Origin.
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