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Posted on 9/4/24 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 9/4/24 at 4:49 pm
I'm a little over my skis regarding equipment and could use some help. I am designing a slab for a school ag building where the Superintendent wants to drive farm equipment inside.
Where I could use some help is what types of equipment would you show rural, Eastern Kentucky high schoolers and where can I find weights and sizes of that equipment?
TIA
Where I could use some help is what types of equipment would you show rural, Eastern Kentucky high schoolers and where can I find weights and sizes of that equipment?
TIA
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:16 pm to JamalSanders
Like a combine or just a tractor?
Sprayers are used more than tractors or combines.
Sprayers are used more than tractors or combines.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:23 pm to JamalSanders
I don't know anything about farming in KY, but it seems like the heaviest equipment they'd move in there would be larger sized utility and row crop tractors (stuff bigger than the typical compact tractor). Any manufacturer website will list the weights and specs. I'd add in weight for a front-end loader, too.
If all else fails, look up weights for rubber-tire loaders and back hoes. Those are crazy heavy.
Just my .02.
If all else fails, look up weights for rubber-tire loaders and back hoes. Those are crazy heavy.
Just my .02.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:30 pm to JamalSanders
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:31 pm to BAMBAM
That will allow you to search. I honestly don’t know much about farm equipment but that’ll give you an idea.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:36 pm to JamalSanders
something to consider too is that farm equipment is usually low compaction so the weight will be spread out
Posted on 9/4/24 at 5:59 pm to JamalSanders
I’m not sure what kind of crops come from Eastern Ky. I know it’s entirely different from Western Ky’s large Ag with Corn/ Soybean operations that span for miles and miles.
I think they do more Hay in that region. If it resembles East Tn, then that’s what they would mainly produce.
Mid size tractors, Hay Balers, Mowers, Rakes Tedders, Bale wrappers, etc. Dairy feed Mixers and Feed boxes. Maybe some Poultry up there as well.
I may be way off but I would THINK those are the main pieces of equipment they would use in that region.
I think they do more Hay in that region. If it resembles East Tn, then that’s what they would mainly produce.
Mid size tractors, Hay Balers, Mowers, Rakes Tedders, Bale wrappers, etc. Dairy feed Mixers and Feed boxes. Maybe some Poultry up there as well.
I may be way off but I would THINK those are the main pieces of equipment they would use in that region.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:56 pm to 14caratgoldjones
Call the major implement dealer in the area. They should be able to tell you what to expect.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:56 pm to JamalSanders
Call the local tractor dealership , talk to a salesman , ask what is commonly sold and he will be able to get you specs on same , let him know what you are doing , might be able to arrange for some demos
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:19 pm to JamalSanders
Talking to the local John Deere dealership salesman would be where I’d start.
Maybe you’ll get lucky and run across the right guy that will spend an hour with you showing you around the equipment. Take notes on what you’re looking at and just google the model of the tractors you see. You’ll find what you’re looking for on tractordata.com.
Would think there’s a lot of hay in the area, so for example a tractor like the John Deere 6150R probably gets a decent amount of use.
Google “John Deere 6150R specs” and click on the tractordata.com LINK and scroll down to dimensions and weight.
Maybe you’ll get lucky and run across the right guy that will spend an hour with you showing you around the equipment. Take notes on what you’re looking at and just google the model of the tractors you see. You’ll find what you’re looking for on tractordata.com.
Would think there’s a lot of hay in the area, so for example a tractor like the John Deere 6150R probably gets a decent amount of use.
Google “John Deere 6150R specs” and click on the tractordata.com LINK and scroll down to dimensions and weight.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:14 pm to JamalSanders
quote:If it's my company and my name getting stamped on the results for something with this much publicity if I shite the bed and the shite hits the fan, I'm turning in a bid worthy of taking direct fire from WW2 P51 mustangs upon a concrete bunker with a skyscraper sitting on top of it.
I am designing a slab for a school ag building where the Superintendent wants to drive farm equipment inside.
But seriously: absolutely no corners cut. You don't know what they're liable to pull up into there 15 years from now when the superintendent is dead and gone, and nobody will give a shite what he told you "way back when."
What people WILL remember is that you spec'd out the slab for that ag building, and it failed. Whatever numbers I come up with for a county votech building in that part of the world, I'm turning in a bid above and beyond. The juice ain't worth the squeeze to do anything less in my opinion. I am absolutely not trying to tell you how to do your job, but I would assume the worst case scenario. It's one thing if Billy Bob's slab failed at his shop 15 years from now, it's an altogether different affair if a county school slab fails.
But that's my 2 cents.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:11 am to JamalSanders
i worked for a farmer in college who was in the process of building a new shop. Believe it or not he poured it only 6" (3000 psi?) deep with mesh reinforcing. Over the years it has held up to tractors and this cane cutter. as other's said, rubber tire equipment with large tires is going to have a lower load overall on the slab. Tracked equipment will be harder on the surface, but if you laydown plywood, it should be fine. Most equipment manufactures will provide a PSF(pounds per square foot) the equipment places on the ground if you dig hard enough.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 7:13 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:20 am to JamalSanders
What county?
Posted on 9/5/24 at 7:38 am to lsuCJ5
To add on to your point, I would also plan on tracked equipment being pulled into the building too. When I was in the equipment industry I had a lot of farmers that had big dozers and excavators they used in there operations. Tracks are hell on concrete unless it’s the right mix.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 8:19 am to JamalSanders
I’m thinking a slab that can stand 20,000 lbs will be sufficient. A tobacco harvester weighs about 10,000 lbs. A John Deere combine can weigh 45,000 lbs though so it depends on crops grown there.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 8:23 am
Posted on 9/5/24 at 12:34 pm to JamalSanders
I have no a cautionary tale. I was a part of a team that designed several concrete zero load air bridges for underground pipelines. We engineered based on HS-20 loading requirements which is moving loads from DOT legal semi trucks.
What actually showed up to cross our bridges was non-DOT mining machinery and equipment. The kind where only one wheel and tire fits on the DOT semi truck and the equipment is assembled on-site.
A pipeline company threw a red flag and we were in hot water due to design and allowing the mining equipment to mobilize onsite.
My advice to you is after making your design including factor of safety, clearly spell out a load limit and specify to paint/mark that load limit on the building or floor. You may also want to increase crack control techniques for the inevitable ugliness that will come with heavy equipment on slabs.
What actually showed up to cross our bridges was non-DOT mining machinery and equipment. The kind where only one wheel and tire fits on the DOT semi truck and the equipment is assembled on-site.
A pipeline company threw a red flag and we were in hot water due to design and allowing the mining equipment to mobilize onsite. My advice to you is after making your design including factor of safety, clearly spell out a load limit and specify to paint/mark that load limit on the building or floor. You may also want to increase crack control techniques for the inevitable ugliness that will come with heavy equipment on slabs.
Posted on 9/5/24 at 1:49 pm to JamalSanders
I’m not really sure what kind of equipment they would be using in that area but suspect prostyle is right in a lot of midsize hay equipment. Tractordata.com website is where I usually go for specs.
As far as the concrete goes 6” 4000psi without fiber and 1/2” rebar running both ways about a foot apart is pretty standard for farm shops. We pull 65,000 lb cotton pickers and 90,000lb trailer trucks in ours or even a 400hp tractor with a grain cart loaded with a 1000 bu of corn. Never had any problem with the floor. We’re not doing a lot of turning on it though with loaded weights only pulling straight through.
As you know though the base under the concrete is the most important part.
As far as the concrete goes 6” 4000psi without fiber and 1/2” rebar running both ways about a foot apart is pretty standard for farm shops. We pull 65,000 lb cotton pickers and 90,000lb trailer trucks in ours or even a 400hp tractor with a grain cart loaded with a 1000 bu of corn. Never had any problem with the floor. We’re not doing a lot of turning on it though with loaded weights only pulling straight through.
As you know though the base under the concrete is the most important part.
This post was edited on 9/5/24 at 1:52 pm
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