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Rally shooter was supposedly using an old DPMS w/red dot (no magnifier)

Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:00 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26908 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:00 am
Brandon Hererra tries recreating the shot using a shitty old 3 MOA red dot, which would have been era-specific to a 15 yr old DPMS Armalite Rifle at 130-150 yds.

Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2465 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 11:57 am to
Heard he had an Eotech on an older DPMS. I know people spend as much or more on an optic vs. gun, but that seems like a very odd pairing. Cheap gun doesn't raise eyebrows, but would expect a cheaper red dot for someone building in that price range.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
39404 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:03 pm to
I mean holy crap.

I was watching Garand Thumb re-enact the whole thing last night and I asked myself:

quote:

Why is GThumb using a red dot on the rifle for a 140 yd headshot?


I didn’t know that was actually used in the attempt.
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 12:56 pm to
This is also why it's equally dumb to call this an inside job. Why would the deep state or secret service or whatever other boogie man use the world's worst assassin for a job like this? I'm sure you could find a patsy that has shot a deer before.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
2465 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:25 pm to
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This is also why it's equally dumb to call this an inside job


I mean, I don't think it was an inside job. But it's not like they're going to outfit a guy with a $10k rifle set up that is sure to raise eyebrows.

However, just a young impressionable guy who obviously liked to shoot (tried out for schools rifle team, etc.) and was apparently a bit of an outcast...I'd say that's a target to radicalize to do something of this nature. I don't think that was the case, just saying.

Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47475 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

This is also why it's equally dumb to call this an inside job. Why would the deep state or secret service or whatever other boogie man use the world's worst assassin for a job like this? I'm sure you could find a patsy that has shot a deer before.


he was 1/2" from taking trumps head off. had it not been for the people on the ground yelling and trump turning his head he would have got the job done.

definitely not the worlds worst assassin.
Posted by StonewallJack
Member since Apr 2008
950 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

definitely not the worlds worst assassin.


He trained at the local shooting center

Keystone Shooting Center
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65647 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:42 pm to
I doubt he was the one that hit Trump..
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61628 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 7:48 pm to
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I doubt he was the one that hit Trump..


Please tell us who did. Who, how, and why.
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 7:54 pm
Posted by jake wade
North LA
Member since Oct 2007
2391 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:01 pm to
It was only 130 yards and he would have made the shot if Trump had not turned his head at just the right time.
Posted by PlaySomeHonk
Montegut La and Liberty MS
Member since Jan 2023
616 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:11 pm to
Analyzing the gun, optic and the shooter won’t give evidence of whether it was an inside job. Oswald is an example.

Look at the USSS multiple faux pas, which absolutely cannot all be mistakes. The USSS doesn’t make a single mistake, period. So on 7/13/24, they damn sure didn’t make 20+. I have zero doubt that it was an inside job.

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20931 posts
Posted on 7/22/24 at 10:24 pm to
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multiple faux pas, which absolutely cannot all be mistakes. The USSS doesn’t make a single mistake, period. So on 7/13/24, they damn sure didn’t make 20+

weren't they caught with 20 whores a decade ago, in cartagena? They do frick up, and some days 20+ at a time.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83831 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 12:02 am to
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This is also why it's equally dumb to call this an inside job.

I don’t know if it was an inside job but it’s dumb to dismiss the idea.

It wouldn’t necessarily require an elaborate plan. All it takes is a couple agents to “not notice” a threat right away.
Posted by chrome1007
Toledo Bend
Member since Dec 2023
584 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 6:07 am to
Throwing my 2 cents….
Start with red dot. A 3 moa dot at 130 yards would cover a humans head. Would not be a precision shot. Shooter was definitely aiming for a head shot.
The fumbling bumbolinas. It is said that a DEI hire was in charge of security. Obviously was their first job. DEI has no place in that world where it is someone’s life……. As we are all learning as facts keep coming out.
An inside job? Certainly can’t rule it out. FBI has a hard on for Trump. Look at j6. Operatives in the crowd Inciting the people. Say there was an fbi operative in the stand behind Trump signaling shooter or shooters with her cell phone.
A complete operational failure by SS.
Are there ANY gooberment departments not infected with TDS?
Just my opinion.
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 6:10 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27265 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Start with red dot. A 3 moa dot at 130 yards would cover a humans head.


WTF kind of tiny humans have you been hunting?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
33658 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 8:38 am to


Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
177220 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 8:52 am to
quote:

It was only 130 yards


It was inbetween 150-157 yards. It was not 130 yards.


quote:

he would have made the shot if


You don't know he took that shot.


Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5459 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 8:52 am to
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I doubt he was the one that hit Trump..


I've looked at everything I could, admittedly not in excruciating detail, but I also watched the Dark Horse podcast where ole boy breaks it down. From what I've seen they are reaching at the claim that there were two or even three shooters. The most interesting thing I saw, though, was how the first shot does travel down the entire back row of those grandstands, which is not in line with Trump. That's pretty peculiar to me. The shadow on the water tower is just that, the shadow on the nipple at the top. The only movement I saw was the mirage effect due to distance.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
177220 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 9:00 am to
quote:

From what I've seen they are reaching at the claim that there were two or even three shooters. The most interesting thing I saw, though, was how the first shot does travel down the entire back row of those grandstands, which is not in line with Trump. That's pretty peculiar to me. The shadow on the water tower is just that, the shadow on the nipple at the top. The only movement I saw was the mirage effect due to distance.


They have the trajectory of the back row bleacher shot wrong. You can trust me or you can do what you want.

The backrow bleacher shot is a bullet that was a ricochet that is moving right to left. It ain't coming from left to right. They have it all wrong and saw what they wanted to see. Even misreading the movement of the purse. The purse moves left to right because the bullet hit the strap moving right to left thus causing the purse dangling to raise and move backwards due to bullet traveling oppo direction.

I've come to conclusion of the first shot came from either 2 points. Crooks or Window 3 under Crooks.
This post was edited on 7/23/24 at 2:36 pm
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5459 posts
Posted on 7/23/24 at 9:15 am to
quote:

They have the trajectory of the back row bleacher shot wrong. You can trust me or you can do what you want.

The backrow bleacher shot is a bullet that was a ricochet that is moving right to left. It ain't coming from left to right. They have it all wrong and saw what they wanted to see. Even misreading the movement of the purse. The purse moves left to right because the bullet hit the strap moving right to left thus causing the purse dangling to raise and move backwards due to bullet traveling oppo direction.

That was my first thought when I saw it. Ricochet. The idea of a simultaneous double shot isn't impossible, but if it was a split second off like the guy claimed, the two gun reports would be discernable.

The guy breaking it down seemed to take the one witness report of someone on the water tower and viewed all the evidence through that lens, trying to make it true.
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