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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:36 am to tigaphan
Remington Mohawk-600 .243
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:38 am to swanny297
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youth model rifle
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savage youth model
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7mm-08
This
This again
Posted on 10/28/14 at 1:16 pm to tigaphan
Highly recommend the Browning X-Bolt micro hunter in a 7mm-08. This is not a "youth model" per se but I got Hunt Jr this when he was young and he still uses it at 18. Might be a tad big for your son now but he should grow into it quickly. Recoil not as bad as the old Ruger .243 he first used either. Recommend taking him to the gun store and trying a few and just see what fits.
Hunt jr killed his first few deer with a .243 and that gun has been used by many for their first deer since that time. Cant go wrong with a .243 for sure (I am sure you will see a lot of votes for that caliber in this thread ), I just really like that Browning 7mm-08.
Good luck and report back - hopefully with some pics of the little guy smiling over his first deer!
Hunt jr killed his first few deer with a .243 and that gun has been used by many for their first deer since that time. Cant go wrong with a .243 for sure (I am sure you will see a lot of votes for that caliber in this thread ), I just really like that Browning 7mm-08.
Good luck and report back - hopefully with some pics of the little guy smiling over his first deer!
Posted on 10/28/14 at 1:22 pm to wickowick
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I moved away from deer, no real desire to get involved again...
Well - on an 8 pt or better hunt, chances are likely pretty good he will see a good deer - he may get "hooked" for sure. Good luck on the hunt and I hope to see some good pics posted!
Posted on 10/28/14 at 1:29 pm to hunt66
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Browning 7mm-08.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:04 pm to wickowick
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I have not deer hunted in years and debating trying to borrow a gun for the weekend vs buying a gun that will get little use. $300 is awful cheap though...
It's always a good thing to have more guns.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:49 pm to tigaphan
Two years ago I bought my son (9yo at the time) a Ruger American in .243. He loved it so much, I went back and got him the .308 and .30-06 as well. They are great guns with a very smooth action and all of them are very accurate. While the guns fit my son well (he's big), Ruger now makes the American in a compact model to fit smaller kids/women. The gun can be bought at Academy for around $350, add a Nikon Prostaff 3x9x40 and you're good to go.
I cannot be more emphatic when I advise you to stay away from the Rossi single shot break action. Their trifecta was the first gun/guns that I bought my son and that thing was horrible in every way. It's a bug out bag gun now.
I cannot be more emphatic when I advise you to stay away from the Rossi single shot break action. Their trifecta was the first gun/guns that I bought my son and that thing was horrible in every way. It's a bug out bag gun now.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 4:06 pm to tigaphan
Rossi
Advantages: inexpensive
inexpensive
compact
multi barrel capability
Disadvantages: low quality
increased recoil
if he continues to hunt, the Rossi will end up only being a starter gun; he'll eventually get another gun like a bolt action.
I'd suggest a youth sized bolt action rifle. If your son was a little older/bigger you could might get by w/ an adult gun, but not at his age. Savage makes a nice youth gun. I'd forgotten about the Ruger "compact", but it's dimiensions make it basically a youth gun. I believe Mossberg makes a youth gun that basically has an adjustable butt stock. If he continues to hunt you'll really wish you got him a decent bolt action instead of the Rossi. In addition, I think there are more quality control problems w/ the Rossi than w/ most other gun makers. Be sure the gun has a GOOD recoil pad (e.g. Limb Saver or Kickeeze). At the range, wear both soft plugs AND decent muffs, hopefully electronic ones. Also consider a small "sissy pad" at the range. It sounds like you're not excited about deer hunting for your son (and that's understandable), but there aren't many opportunities these days for us dads to have an enjoyable outlet w/ our kids. Enjoy as much as you can the limited time you have w/ him.
Advantages: inexpensive
inexpensive
compact
multi barrel capability
Disadvantages: low quality
increased recoil
if he continues to hunt, the Rossi will end up only being a starter gun; he'll eventually get another gun like a bolt action.
I'd suggest a youth sized bolt action rifle. If your son was a little older/bigger you could might get by w/ an adult gun, but not at his age. Savage makes a nice youth gun. I'd forgotten about the Ruger "compact", but it's dimiensions make it basically a youth gun. I believe Mossberg makes a youth gun that basically has an adjustable butt stock. If he continues to hunt you'll really wish you got him a decent bolt action instead of the Rossi. In addition, I think there are more quality control problems w/ the Rossi than w/ most other gun makers. Be sure the gun has a GOOD recoil pad (e.g. Limb Saver or Kickeeze). At the range, wear both soft plugs AND decent muffs, hopefully electronic ones. Also consider a small "sissy pad" at the range. It sounds like you're not excited about deer hunting for your son (and that's understandable), but there aren't many opportunities these days for us dads to have an enjoyable outlet w/ our kids. Enjoy as much as you can the limited time you have w/ him.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 10/28/14 at 4:42 pm to tigaphan
I forgot calibers. Unlike some, I'm personally, not a fan of 223's and 243's for deer hunting, especially youth. I'd instead suggest one of the following w/ reduced recoil/managed recoil factory loads: 260 Rem, 7-08 Rem, or 308 Win, 1st choice
270 Win or 30-06, 2nd choice.
There's also a 30-30 reduced recoil load, but I wouldn't go that route unless you get a Rossi chamabered in 30-30.
A reduced recoil 308 Win actually has less recoil than does a full power 243 Win.
270 Win or 30-06, 2nd choice.
There's also a 30-30 reduced recoil load, but I wouldn't go that route unless you get a Rossi chamabered in 30-30.
A reduced recoil 308 Win actually has less recoil than does a full power 243 Win.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:04 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
All good suggestions, TOTH. But if the OP's son is 6-7yo he will have to go with something in a youth/compact size rifle. A full size rifle will be near impossible for the kid to handle. And although I like a .243, I would opt for the .308 with reduced recoil loads.
I have handled the Ruger American compact now that I think about it and I am 6'4". It was quite comfortable and I would have no problem shooting it, especially in thick woods or a climbing stand.
I have handled the Ruger American compact now that I think about it and I am 6'4". It was quite comfortable and I would have no problem shooting it, especially in thick woods or a climbing stand.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:15 pm to Croacka
Savage accutrigger
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:34 pm to Tigerinthewoods
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But if the OP's son is 6-7yo he will have to go with something in a youth/compact size rifle. A full size rifle will be near impossible for the kid to handle. And although I like a .243, I would opt for the .308 with reduced recoil loads.
We're in full agreement.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:02 pm to tigaphan
7mm08.....is the best caliber and he will be able to use for a along time. Great balistics and small recoile.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:36 pm to tigaphan
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I would opt for the .308 with reduced recoil loads.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:00 pm to Nascar Fan
The Savage Model 11 Youth Combo with the Accutriger is probably the best deal going. Shoot with reduced recoil loads.
LINK
Remington and Browning also make youth models. Verify that the stock can be changed out for the kid when he gets older and he's set. Some of the replacement stocks are very affordable.
Edit - check the length of pull; seems like I recall the Savage having a slightly shorter LOP than the Remington.
Glass on the combo is not the best, but that can be replaced later.
LINK
Remington and Browning also make youth models. Verify that the stock can be changed out for the kid when he gets older and he's set. Some of the replacement stocks are very affordable.
Edit - check the length of pull; seems like I recall the Savage having a slightly shorter LOP than the Remington.
Glass on the combo is not the best, but that can be replaced later.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:12 pm to mylsuhat
.243 with fusion bullet can kill any deer you will ever see. My son took out at 210 pound 10 point last year at about 180 yards and dropped it like a sack of potatoes. Looked like a mini grenade it broke up so bad. it was good not perfect shot. kill or inpacked area was about 6 inches round.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:21 pm to Bill Parker?
I'm in my 30's and still use my 7-08 exclusively for deer. If a woman or kid can kill deer with it, I don't see the point of shouldering a magnum to do the same job.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 11:35 pm to tigaphan
EAR PROTECTION!!
most kids aren't bothered by the recoil as much as the pop and ringing.
Eta. Anything but a 223.
most kids aren't bothered by the recoil as much as the pop and ringing.
Eta. Anything but a 223.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:29 am to Purple Spoon
Another browning micro xbolt 7mm-08 voter here
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