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Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:50 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471095 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:50 pm to
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2 pages back

No

Nobody who understands the issues is commenting about Congress negotiating a single tariff. That would be silly.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5860 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 6:53 pm to
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And they never will because Trump is the one proposing it. You will always have the 3 or 4 libertarian Repubs reject it, and of course 100% of Democrats. We simply don't have the votes in Congress and likely never will. This is why Congress is absolutely worthless.


You are correct more than likely. Let us hope that we can shove through election reforms and then it is very much possible. Until then probably not.
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4305 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 7:14 pm to
Democrats did not bring this before the courts. It was two family owned toy manufacturers who have their products made in China. The two companies are Hand2Mind and learning Resources. They had to raise their retail prices by about 70% to make up for the new tariffs that they were being charged.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10077 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 8:40 pm to
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He has the right to regulate importation. It all falls under IEEPAA - International Emergency Economic Powers Act. Can the result affect taxes? Sure, but is it technically a tax? No


You might be right. We'll see soon.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
3755 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:03 pm to
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Why are Democrats even taking this to court in the first place?


Because it’s good for America.

WTF?
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36049 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:01 pm to
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77% chance the SC rules tariffs are illegal, possible ruling this Friday


Seriously? Come on.
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
26450 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:34 pm to
How many tariffs are instituted via IEEPA?

I know all the tariffs are not. Some are through the trade expansion act.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15034 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:30 pm to
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congress hasn't negotiated a budget with itself in 30 years.

congress set up medicade rules that allowed billions of dollars of Somali theft

congress was able to pas 3 bills last year

congess will not outlaw congress inside trading

congress can't function

congress just f.cks around and SFP wants them to do work?


Look the way the system works is you gotta to get enough people to get angry and vote out almost all of Congress. Then you tell them to prohibit lobbyist in DC

Its been a cesspool for a very long time and many of the issues we currently have are because of a historically weak Congress (i.e. Last 30 years or so)

This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 11:31 pm
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
11259 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:21 am to
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So all tarriffs that other countries impose are illegal as well?


Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
11259 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:22 am to
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Why are Democrats even taking this to court in the first place?


TDS and get OMB.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
11259 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:25 am to
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The thing that's infuriating is there are so many dumb questions and comments


The irony...
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
11259 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:26 am to
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The sheer amount of folks you’re triggering has really increased in the last year. You must be really happy about your success


They're not nearly as triggered as that nerd is over Trump and MAGA. His TDS is off the charts.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
471095 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:27 am to
Thanks for the laugh

Especially after this post



As I said, dumb questions and comments
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
11259 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:27 am to
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I expect it to be 6-3 with the usual whack jobs dissenting. Maybe 5-4 with Roberts being a turncoat again.


If they rule in favor of the Trump admin, I would bet a 5-4 decision on this one.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
11259 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:29 am to
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quote:
. You must be really happy about your success.


It's incredibly annoying, actually.



You are incredibly annoying, ackshully.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
11259 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:31 am to
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He has the right to regulate importation. It all falls under IEEPAA - International Emergency Economic Powers Act. Can the result affect taxes? Sure, but is it technically a tax? No


This.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
11259 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:33 am to
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Democrats did not bring this before the courts. It was two family owned toy manufacturers who have their products made in China. The two companies are Hand2Mind and learning Resources. They had to raise their retail prices by about 70% to make up for the new tariffs that they were being charged.


I'm sure they had plenty of encouragement from Democrats to bring these suits.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
11259 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:38 am to
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As I said, dumb questions and comments


You're not NEARLY the genius you believe you are in your own mind there, guy. I promise you. Your holier than thou, know it all (while simultaneously knowing nothing) bloviating on here day in and day out is about insufferable.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19585 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 10:44 am to
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So all tarriffs that other countries impose are illegal as well?

I'm not an expert, but it sounds like what's being argued isn't the constitutionality of tariffs themselves, but whether the President has the authority to institute them unilaterally.
Posted by bama1959
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2008
5083 posts
Posted on 1/7/26 at 11:52 am to
Congress did give the President authority to charge tariffs including the following situation:

Section 301 (Trade Act of 1974): Grants authority to retaliate against "unfair" foreign trade practices, investigated by the USTR.

It seems like this could be applied to most situations. However, I don't think the President has the authority to make blanket worldwide changes to the tariffs. So you can't change it worldwide but you can on an individual basis. That's how I read it anyway. If I'm right then Trump must get the USTR to agree that a country is trading unfairly.
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