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re: 793 Billion in Social Security funds stolen annually ( 1/3 of all SS spending fraudulent)
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:03 pm to RelicBatches86
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:03 pm to RelicBatches86
quote:How many consecutive audits has the DoD failed? How many billions of dollars have gone unaccounted for? Surely with decades of bipartisan scrutiny we could answer these simple questions.
And this $100 B, $200 B, $300 B oversight somehow escaped the scutiny of decades of fed govt control from both parties and bipartisan oversight organizations? When both parties made deals to close the deficit
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:04 pm to wdhalgren
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:05 pm to RelicBatches86
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both parties and bipartisan oversight organizations? When both parties made deals to close the deficit ?
Both parties = Uniparty
Adorable, my sweet summer child.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:07 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:do you get banned for citing any news that portrays a victory for Trump? Like this is some of the biggest fraud ever uncovered. Does DU just completely ignore it? Imagine defending oligarchs/ruling class politicians stealing hundreds of billions from taxpayers. You’d think that’d be right up their alley but those insincere fricks are brainwashed by the state and don’t even see the hypocrisy
reddit these days is an absolute gold mine of entertainment because of how left leaning the vast majority of it is. I was reading comments on this article (can't even remember what sub it was, nothing I've subscribed to it was just one of the recommended ones in the home feed) and as expected it's hundreds and hundreds of comments calling Musk an idiot,
ETA guess it boils down to people not being able to admit they were wrong and the rednecks they’ve viewed as beneath them their whole life are right. They can suck Harry Bolz nuts
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:07 pm to AFtigerFan
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This should be really easy to prove that fraud occurred. Just see where the money went
Basically
Eligible to receive and actually receiving are two different things
The numbers he is releasing are very troubling but they don’t prove payments went out.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:09 pm to theunknownknight
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:11 pm to Tupelo
If they're listed as active, what's to stop a hacker or an insider from changing a few things and turning on the payment system?
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:15 pm to PeleofAnalytics
If the fake #s are in the production system (as opposed to a test system) there's a risk of them being able to be hacked and used for fraudulent payments.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:15 pm to Quidam65
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If they're listed as active, what's to stop a hacker or an insider from changing a few things and turning on the payment system?
Most big systems like this go through monthly reconciliations which would (read SHOULD
) revert any non-valid recipient status flag back to inactive. That’s how we handle issues like that in other systems (along with fraud checks obviously).
The true hacks would be on local systems that update the federal system. If those occurred, the active flags would stay ON during every reconciliation
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:19 pm to Kjnstkmn
When an inconsistency pops up, the default should be NOT to pay until the matter is resolved.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:22 pm to ChineseBandit58
It may mean that it was set to check for numbers which are showing as the person being alive ("TRUE" meaning the person is dead).
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:23 pm to theunknownknight
It’s going overseas ( at least initially, I’m sure some comes back as kickbacks / payoffs)
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:27 pm to Kjnstkmn
I trust Elon.
That being said, the screenshot he has posted merely says that 20 million people over age 100 are checked false for dead.
I haven't seen it say specifically that 20 million people over 100 are COLLECTING SS BENEFITS every month.
Nor have I heard him state that.
I also haven't followed as closely as some of you.
Is there a SPECIFIC LINK to Elon quoting these 20 million people are getting PAID?
General waste and fraud is not the same thing as 20 million dead people getting paid $1500/mo.
And if there really are $793 billion SS funds stolen annually where is that money going?
Dead people's relatives?
China/Iran/NoKo/Slavic bank accounts via stolen identities?
Can we get any details on this shite other than WHOA, OMG, frick.
Edit: hopefully this is addressed in the replies here, if so sorry for posting before reading the thread, which should be forum 101
That being said, the screenshot he has posted merely says that 20 million people over age 100 are checked false for dead.
I haven't seen it say specifically that 20 million people over 100 are COLLECTING SS BENEFITS every month.
Nor have I heard him state that.
I also haven't followed as closely as some of you.
Is there a SPECIFIC LINK to Elon quoting these 20 million people are getting PAID?
General waste and fraud is not the same thing as 20 million dead people getting paid $1500/mo.
And if there really are $793 billion SS funds stolen annually where is that money going?
Dead people's relatives?
China/Iran/NoKo/Slavic bank accounts via stolen identities?
Can we get any details on this shite other than WHOA, OMG, frick.
Edit: hopefully this is addressed in the replies here, if so sorry for posting before reading the thread, which should be forum 101
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:29 pm to Kjnstkmn
Retirements, hell. They need to lose everything, and die is a solitary jail cell.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:31 pm to Tupelo
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Not that massive fraud couldn't have happened, but it is hard to believe fraud on this scale would go undetected for any length of time.
Can't find what you're not looking for.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:32 pm to Hodag
Yes it hasn’t all been proved as rock solid yet and he did use “might be” as a result until it has been, but it’s amazing how you guys are so quick to come to the defense of the government, I’m sure it’s just an honest mistake, they’re all angels, nothing to see here.
Past experience would teach us that with respect to government and corruption where there is smoke, there’s fire.
Past experience would teach us that with respect to government and corruption where there is smoke, there’s fire.
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:33 pm to RelicBatches86
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And this $100 B, $200 B, $300 B oversight somehow escaped the scutiny of decades of fed govt control from both parties and bipartisan oversight organizations? When both parties made deals to close the deficit ?
Are you really expecting the people stealing our money to tell us they are stealing our money?
If everything is on the up and up, why are certain people in congress screeching so loudly against the audits?
You still trust the government too much.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:33 pm to ChineseBandit58
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my impression from the tone of the article is that those are dead people who have been once removed from the payout file, but then later having the death notice override - i.e. labeled FALSE - and those funds are then shunted off to some ghost account for fraudulent dispersal.
BINGO.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:37 pm to Tupelo
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Not that massive fraud couldn't have happened, but it is hard to believe fraud on this scale would go undetected for any length of time.
Who says it went on undetected? Did you really expect the wolves we’ve had guarding the henhouse to let everyone know they had consumed all of the chickens?
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:44 pm to Kjnstkmn
Some of it could be the result of a coding error, a blank in the birth date blank could be read as 1875-05-20 or 1875-140 according to ISO 8601 standards.
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